Off Topic CITY SHOW THEIR CLASS -AND IT IS VERY LOW

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  1. jenners04

    jenners04 I must not post porn!

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    like i said, he doesn't need to reply to any allegations, it's up to whoever has evidence and to give it to whomever and challenge it that way.

    if this is to become acceptable, then it wont be long before clubs managers stop talking to press and getting someone else to do it.

    yes you can use the argument if they have nothing to hide etc, but not point i'm making is it.
     
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    They can stop talking to the press any time they want if they're also willing to stop taking the money they pay for access.

    So in your opinion we have to adandon the legal concept of a free press because we might miss out on some football managers' statements? No thanks.
     
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  3. jenners04

    jenners04 I must not post porn!

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    we ban certain journos from anfield for obvious reasons.

    this is a legal matter, and pep has every right to keep saying no comment as it's not in a court of law before a judge, what is the point in that?
     
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  4. astro

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    It was at Wembley not City's stadium.

    Of course he has the right to just say no comment. If the journalist decides he wants to use his question on that issue doesn't he have that right?
     
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  5. jenners04

    jenners04 I must not post porn!

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    sorry didn't realise i was talking to diego, have a good day astro <ok>
     
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  6. I am Groot returns

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    On this latest part of this thread I’m actually in agreement with Astro subject to one or two points mentioned below being correct.

    If City have failed repeatedly to respond to this question over a period of 6 to 7 months then they only have themselves to blame for it cropping up when it did.

    I don’t know if they have or they haven’t answered the question or how many times the question has been asked previously or to whom or if any sort of answer has or hasn’t been given or whether the journalist just didn’t like the replies. So my point is subject to City having been repeatedly asked over a long period of time and not given any answer. If any or all of my assumptions are wrong that may alter my view.

    Pep is the figurehead of City and, therefore, is a legitimate person to ask. Not at all bothered where and what occasion it was at. City have previous for this, therefore, fair enough to ask the question.

    If City didn’t want the question asked then they would seem to have had ample time to deal with it. Would be stupid to think that by simply not answering the question that it would all go away.
     
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  7. moreinjuredthanowen

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    If there's ongoing case and investigation and you had a camera on your face and a journo asking well did you do this for this you would be able to answer either.

    The first rulebook the adversarial judicial system is give nothing to the other side.

    If pep said no and some guy pulls some non entity of a commercial deal for image for whatever out then it can look like he was lying.

    The question to pep was clear, have you signed a second hidden deal with mansour like mancini did to hide your true wages and misaccount ffp.

    The reality is pep can't answer for that happened 2 managers before him and as an active investigation he has to say no comment if he's got any sense and so would you or I.

    I would say the so called journalist has nothing more than the German newspaper got from those football leaks papers and hasn't turned a thing up so is just playing the game now.
     
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  8. Superfirmino

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    All he's doing is using the innocent before proven guilty theory. Seeing as it was referred to that other department, UEFA must feel they have a case against them. I feel a year CL ban is on the cards and a transfer ban will follow thereafter.
     
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  9. InKloppWeTrust

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    Which could be bad news for the CL. City will appeal it to get it delayed, or just buy a tonne of players the window before to preempt it just like Barca did. Won’t get any weaker and a year of no European football means can concentrate on all domestic comps without any midweek games. Seen how strong they are even when rotating, imagine how good they’ll be when they can play strongest 11 most weeks!
     
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  10. astro

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    https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/so...bought-and-they-re-paying-the-price-1.3897613

    City’s domination has been bought – and they’re paying the price

    Football has not seen anything like this before. The closest comparison is with Chelsea after the 2003 Abramovich takeover, but their spending was nowhere near as sustained or comprehensive. Yes, in the 11 seasons from 2003-4 to 2014-15 Chelsea were football’s biggest spenders, but their net outlay of £751 million was only 10 per cent more than City’s in the same period, even though City spent very little between 2003 and 2007. Chelsea’s net spend in those 11 seasons was 64 per cent of the total combined net outlay of Real Madrid and Barcelona, whereas City’s since 2008 is more than Real Madrid’s and Barcelona’s put together.

    City victories are now the default outcome in this rigged game and there is not much left to say about them, so it’s not really surprising that the focus has increasingly turned to issues surrounding their funding and ownership. It’s enough to make you question the whole concept of sportswashing. Abu Dhabi might have got involved with City as a way to project and improve its global standing, but is that how things have played out? If you had polled football fans in 2007 about what they associated with Abu Dhabi, you’d probably have received a lot of blank looks. Now they’ll mention Yemen, slaves, the abuse of human rights and so on. Was it really worth it?

    It’s been the most successful week in City’s history, and the pity is that their manager, fans and PR department have seldom sounded more angry. It’s time to accept that oil-funded success and mass popularity are never going to go together. It’s as though City are perched on the back of a dragon, peering down at a sullen populace, wondering incredulously why they are not loved. Shouldn’t it be obvious?
     
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  11. johnsonsbaby

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    I go back to the comment I made a while ago that the FA shouldn't have allowed the sale of one of its clubs to owners of suspect means. Once the sale was sanctioned this was always waiting to happen.
     
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  12. Superfirmino

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    I would love to know how a club who has the European pedigree of Limerick City, Standard Liege and Rangers being banned from Europe can hurt it? It won't, it will hurt Man City. They will lose vast sums in prize money, their potential for commercialism will be hit.

    As things stand, there is very little between Liverpool and City in terms of revenue. City's revenue is slightly higher. City's non European involvement will eliminate that. Liverpool can easily jump up to second behind Trafford Town. It won't be long before Liverpool replace them as the commercial powerhouse.
     
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  13. InKloppWeTrust

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    Banned from Europe for 1 year? They’ll survive. We were out of Europe for how long and we still had an appeal.
     
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  14. Superfirmino

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    City don't have an appeal because they do not have a European pedigree. Liverpool are European royalty like Real, Barca and Bayern. City are down with TNS, Rangers and Sligo Rovers.
     
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  15. bulletinthehead

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    Liverpool winning things started when John Moores, owner of Littlewoods, began investing in the early 60s. They were Division 2 nobodies for years before that. Who'd have thought it, Liverpool buying success with profits made from encouraging the poor to gamble. By a strange coincidence they stopped winning things around the time the Pools got overtaken by the National Lottery in the early 90s.

    Different though innit?
     
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  16. InKloppWeTrust

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    City have an appeal because they have Pep, won the league twice in a row, can pay 200k a week to players and have brilliant players that a new signing would be able to play alongside.

    We like to think that past history would have an impact but let’s be honest, barely plays a part these days. Sure it may have some sort of appeal but ac Milan have huge pedigree but no one is signing for them over city.
     
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  17. astro

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    Which FFP rules did Moores break?
     
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  18. Superfirmino

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    How will that work when they are slapped with a transfer ban? That will happen because they broke the rules relating to the law of capacity. They made a 14 year old Jadon Sancho sign a contract. That is against the law. Minors (under the age of 16) cannot enter into a legal binding contract. They are heading the same way as Chelsea regarding a transfer ban.
     
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  19. Red Hadron Collider

    Red Hadron Collider thedickhead

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    Nothing to do with a highly successful catalogue business purveying lower priced clothing etc to the populace.
     
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  20. bulletinthehead

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    There weren't any then. That's why you got away with it. Did it all the same.
     
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