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Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by The RDBD, Jun 30, 2017.

  1. BobbyD

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    so in the past 7 years, the team who won the title won the cup in 4 of those years?
     
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  2. humanbeingincroydon

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    The argument was the finalists didn't have their seasons affected, not the winners - and that's where Diego's latest attempt to pretend he isn't a boring ****poster fell apart

    Case in point, look at the table for 2017-18: the Sheikh Mansour Team won the league at a canter, finishing 19 points clear - and the other finalist, Woolwich, finished in 6th on 63 points, a full 12 points off the CL places. What really stands out is the flattest point of the Nomads' season, where they picked up six points out of 21, was between 14th January - 4th March. You know what else took place in that period?

    10th January/24th January - Season Killer Cup semis
    25th February - Season Killer Cup final

    And what really sticks out is there's no other competitions that can be blamed: they were knocked out of the FA Cup in the third round at the first time of asking after fielding a weakened side, and the Europa League didn't restart until 15th February after the group stage finished on 7th December
     
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  3. KingHotspur

    KingHotspur Well-Known Member

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    Any team who loses a final mid season is bound to be affected.

    Obviously I’d love to see Spurs win any trophy (even the League Cup) but if you get there and lose the final then it’s understandable to struggle mentally afterwards
     
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  4. humanbeingincroydon

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    Winning the thing doesn't tend to help either, as teams often mentally check out because they already Won Something even though there's a third of the season to go, for example...

    2008: Spurs
    2011: Birmingham
    2012: Saltypool
    2013: Swansea
    2016: The Sheikh Mansour Team
    2017: Man Utd

    Also, has anyone seen the schedule that UEFA's dreamed up for their competitions starting next season?
    Wednesday: stupid tournament nobody asked for
    Thursday: Europa League
    Saturday: Champions League

    ...errm, what? I can see a hellish fixture list for teams coming from that, especially for a week where a CL team is playing an EL team given the Saturday CL games would require a midweek game...but an EL or STNAF team can't play midweek as they're playing Thursday or Wednesday respectively

    And if you think that looks bad, look at the criteria for qualifying

    Playoff Round
    La Liga: team who finished 6th
    Bundesliga: team who finished 6th
    Serie A: team who finished sixth
    Ligue 1: team who finished 5th
    Premier League: Season Killer Cup winner
    Europa League: lose in the play-off round (5 from the Champions Path, two from the Non-Champions Path)

    Third Qualifying Round
    Eredivisie: team who finished third
    Primeira Liga: team who finished 4th
    Jupiler League: The fourth-placed team of the play-offs I and the first-placed team of the play-offs II played two matches by home-and-away matches to determine the Europa League play-off winner. The winner will qualify for the second qualifying round of the 2021–22 UEFA Europa Conference League.
    Super Lig: team who finished third
    Russian premier League: team who finished third
    Ukrainian Premier League: team who finished third
    Austrian Bundesliga: team who finished third

    I need a lie down after that...
     
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  5. PowerSpurs

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    Hopefully we are never bad enough to qualify for it. Arsenal v Chelsea in the first final and the winners bragging about a trophy.
     
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  6. humanbeingincroydon

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    What really needs to happen is one of the G14 clubs gets stuck in it

    Imagine the scenes when Man Utd/Saltypool/Woolwich are complaining about their fixture backlog because they were due to have a run of fixtures against teams that qualified for the credible competitions
     
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  7. maggie blanchflower

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    How you keep tabs on all this stuff is beyond me! Not just this post but so many others where I often have never even heard of the player/team referred to. Even with the vast data base on the net it must take some doing and time. Do you go to work wonder?
     
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  8. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    Chelsea or Barnsley at home in the League Cup if we beat Orient.
     
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  9. humanbeingincroydon

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    please log in to view this image
     
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  11. PleaseNotPoll

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  12. humanbeingincroydon

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    B-b-b-but Everton show ambIShuN!

    Also...
     
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  13. The RDBD

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    @BitterSpursHater

    Is there any way you can dimension or slice/dice that data/stats to
    show that Spurs are NOT a well run "business of their own account" ??

    As requested : no.
     
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  15. Blue and White

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    The Premier League broadcast selection process for the first weekend in October has now been completed, with our fixture at Manchester United moving to Sunday 4 October, kick-off 4.30pm.

    The match will be shown live on Sky Sports.
     
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  16. humanbeingincroydon

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    A Man Utd match picked for Sky? How unique...
     
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  17. Alfie Conn

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    Reported that Hojbjerg has a slight ankle knock , what's the odds on 3to 4 weeks out ?
     
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  18. humanbeingincroydon

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    Let's see if Jamie Bowden is given a squad number anytime soon...
     
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  19. PleaseNotPoll

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    He's out for two months with a knee injury, so White's probably more likely to step up.
     
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  20. humanbeingincroydon

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    Nice of the club to offer a way to learn which Twitter accounts need muting...
     
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