Confirmed! Roly the Cvnt NOT actually gone

Not sure mate, USA is / was sending people out. Maybe we have enough established 'goodwill' between us already haha

 

It could simply be that the UK does not have the expertise in fighting these kinds of fires - especially on this scale.

The USA certainly does.

 

The agreement between Staprix and ESI has been posted on CL onthe Who owns the Valley thread. I've skimmed through it, and a lot of the legaleese goes over my head, but It's a very long document, and it doesn't have any reference to a 6-month period. Staprix retains considerable rights, and my interpretations of the jargon may well be wrong, but I have doubts about whether ESI even own the stadium. Any item valued at over £100,000:00 has to have a plate attached stating that it's the property of Staprix. It states at one point that the club hereby grants Staprix the power of attorney. This may only be in the case of the club going into administration, I hope it is. I'm pretty sure that Staprix remains the freeholder, ESI the leaseholder. Whatever ESI have bought, it is not wholly theirs, it's by a mortgage. Anyone else got time to plough through it who understands legal jargon?

 

Southall has said that ESI own the Valley but Staprix own the land at the Valley. Also Staprix own the Training ground and the land.

 

Roland = Ron Noades
ESI = Mark Goldberg.

Noades sold Goldberg the club and football share, but kept the assets.
14 months later and £40M down the drain, Goldberg went bankrupt.
One of the first things Goldberg did was employ new doctors and physio's at a cost of £200k per year - gave Terry Venables a new contract and left them to it!!

 

Did you type this with a straight face?

 

Yes.
Respect the thread!!

 

TBF, Venables absolutely screwed Goldberg. TV was a spiv, and couldn’t believe his luck at just how naive Goldberg was as a new face in football.

 

He is at Welling, most of the fans hate him.

 

His son follows him around too - wasn't he on Charlton's book as a kid?

 

Yes Bradley was at the academy. He was a dwarf like his Dad.
Ps are you allowed to say dwarf?

 

Ask @Beware of the Virus

 

Yes, dwarf is fine - they are harmless as long as you pack them off to Brazil every now and then

 

No, you are not.

 

The nearest you get to Brasil is being in the same boozer as Alan.

 

Anyway, back to respecting the thread.

I wonder when Southall will come out with another misleading comment.

 

Yes you are?

 

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Great player in his day.

 

RESPECT THE THREAD

(yes, I am shouting)

 

Here's something worth having a look at;

https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/01788466/charges/_fjxa6m69jHeq6d-mkTdAMoJR_Y

Scroll down the page a bit and click on 'View PDF (32 pages) on the left hand side.

I'm no lawyer. Over 99% of that PDF means nothing to me whatsoever.

What it appears to mean though is that right now ESI owns nothing at all.

ESI runs Charlton Athletic Football Company Limited.
If that company fails, all its assets remain the property of Staprix (Roland Duchatelet).

In effect, Duchatelet has provided finance so ESI can run Charlton Athletic (the company), instead of him having to run the place himself.

The Club has new management only.

Duchatelet still owns everything, one way or another.

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So in the summer ESI are going to buy everything from Duchatelet?

That is the second version of what fans have been told.
The first version - that ESI owns everything - was clearly not the truth.

So why should supporters believe anything they are now told.
I'm not going to believe anything they now say, until it happens.

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Maybe this doesn't matter much to some fans.
Perhaps some feel the ownership is neither here nor there as long as the team does OK on the pitch and supporters can go and watch games.

It matters to me.
Until Charlton Athletic is SOLD (not mortgaged or leased or lent, or anything else) then Roland Duchatelet still owns the Club.

There may have been a 'take-over' of executive management, meaning people running the Club who have a different vision from the one RD had himself. But to me, that is tantamount to Roland just putting a new CEO and some suits in place, and telling them to get on with it.

Presumably ESI are "free" to lead Charlton Athletic to the promised land of the Premier League if they can, and make a profit from the untold riches of TV deal money.
But in order to do that they will have to risk their money (wherever they can get it from, including buyers of season tickets) and not Duchatelet's money.

And if they fail, Duchatelet gets everything back.
Whereas if they succeed, the value of everything RD still owns goes through the roof.
He has removed any risk from himself and his companies, but stands to gain massively in the event that ESI succeeds.

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We will have to wait and see whether anything now changes in the summer.

As things stand in my opinion, Charlton Athletic does not have new owners.

Roland Duchatelet is still the owner, indeed more secure than ever before. All we have are some new suits, who have so far talked a lot of talk and done virtually nothing else apart from give Lee Bowyer a new 3 year contract.

Fair play to them in that regard at least. They could have done what most new 'owners' do - swept Bowyer and his people away and dropped in their own coaching staff.

But could it be they have refrained from doing that not because they believe in Bowyer's vision, but because they don't actually have one of their own and decided it would be better to leave that aspect of things well alone for the present, while they learn on the job?
Could it be they don't have a f**king clue what they are doing?

As of this moment they have 90 hours to persuade me I'm wrong to ask that question.

In the meantime I think the title of this thread needs changing. Roly is definitely not gone.