Corona virus and football

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  1. cumbrianmackem

    cumbrianmackem Well-Known Member

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    I'll show my arse in Binns window if football with spectators is back by August. If only I could find a Binns window and be allowed out to complete the task.
     
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  2. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    There's a virtual Binns window nowadays called 'the internet' ...

    ... it's quick and effective but you might end up on a register <laugh>
     
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    I’ve already seen it<laugh>
     
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    Some bookies open in sea road could this be germ warfare ? what the frig is going on, we have had swine flu, aids etc now this.
     
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  5. Jerry lee

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    There won't be any high street left if this lock down gans on longer for three weeks
     
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  6. DH4

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    Just read that Jobcentre have scrapped all condtionality (jobsearch etc) for unemployment benefit claimants for 3 months and payments will be automatic. Knowing how much the Tories love torturing these people this tells me they expect this to last at least 3 months.
     
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  7. Flash Gordon

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    It'll be interesting to see how football reacts to this over the years to come. Financial fair play might have been released a little bit to help them through the crisis, but I suspect a lot of clubs will become more prudent after this without any guidance. Clubs like Bournemouth must realise that having a wage bill that is 90% of turnover, can be catastrophic in situations like this. I wonder if we'll see some kind of disaster clause in players contracts, like a relegation cut that has become so common.
     
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  8. Sandy Camel

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    I'm on Universal Credit and while welcome and sensible news, I'm still trying to get some work like. Bit restricted as I don't have a car and don't want to have to use public transport. Not because of being close to anyone as the buses I've managed to see have about 3 people on them but just in case they get pulled from service totally. So if anyone knows of any where in Darlo needing staff, give me a shout. Cheers.
     
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  9. Nacho

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    Seems like plan A is going to be to finish off the season behind closed doors, although it's clearly motivated by money as if they don't finish it by July 16th the PL will owe a **** load of money to broadcasters. I can just about see it happening by then if it's well under control but if even one person dies as a result of rushing it it'd be a PR disaster.
     
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  10. Smug in Boots

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    Jack Grealish has just perfectly demonstrated why this season is finished. Out all night getting shytfaced with his mates, sleeping all day and looking shot to pieces.

    If they attempt to restart this season it'll be a shambles and people will regret wishing for it imo.

    This video is the perfect example of a thick as pigshit young English football player ...

    ... almost as embarrassing as crashing his car and walking off before the police arrived, coward and hypocrite <doh>




    https://www.lequipe.fr/Football/Act...t-en-ne-respectant-pas-le-confinement/1123685
     
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  11. becs

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    Are there any supermarkets nearby? There's work about stacking shelves and order pickers if they do online shopping. Delivery work too if you can drive. Some small stores like Co-ops are looking for people too.

    Cleaning work in anywhere that's open as everything needs to be more thoroughly cleaned now.

    Royal Mail at Team Valley are looking for temp sorting office staff so try your local one and some delivery offices are looking for temp posties.

    Various call centre jobs around, especially for the 111 service and temp office work for the DWP processed all the new benefit claims.

    Good luck :emoticon-0148-yes:
     
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  12. Kittenmittons

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    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52120578

    Glad some politicians are willing to stick their head over the parapet and question the absurdity of the football clubs doing this. I had assumed that furloughing staff (which I think is fine) would be accompanied by similar wage decreases or even furloughing for players.

    Instead, you have the bizarre situation where Premier League clubs are paying out millions in weekly wages and are not asking players to take any kind of wage cut, while taking advantage of a government scheme that has a knock on effect for taxpayers.

    I did some back of a fag packet calculations with Tottenham and reckon they pay out around £1.75m a week in wages (or in that region). At that level, a 20% pay cut would save £350k a week, which would allow them to use £1.5m a month on paying existing staff and other areas that may need addressing. At the government minimum, that would allow them to pay over 600 staff £2,500 a month.

    Any club doing this is completely making a mockery of the situation and costing the taxpayer future contributions.
     
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  13. Ozzymac

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    A number of A league clubs (granted there's less money) have stood their players down.
     
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    So they aren't getting paid at all? Not seen what Aussies are doing about this so no idea if there's any help there.

    I think there has to be a balance. If a club has the capacity to pay 50 staff a combined £6m a month (an average of £120k each), and isn't prepared to sacrifice any portion of that to pay their lowest paid staff, that's very dubious. I suspect that the nuances of the scheme might change to reflect egregious idiocy, and if I was Newcastle, Spurs or Norwich - and if I were a PL player - I'd think very carefully about whether I'd want to be on the wrong side of history on this one.

    For clubs lower down the chain, the flip side of this is that furloughing players in L1/L2 might not make much of a difference to the player materially and may save the club. Those clubs are closer to normal businesses in their wage structures, got no problem with clubs in that position using it.
     
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  15. Ozzymac

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    The government is offering the majority of workers here $1500 per fortnight as a "job keeper" subsidy so that would apply to footballers as well if the club keep them on the books.

    A lot of the club staff will have been terminated and they would be eligible for unemployment benefits which has just been doubled to $1100 per fortnight.

    In the AFL the players association has agreed to a 50% pay cut across the board, those on the minimum salary won't be cut by as much.

    I think it would be very irresponsible and selfish if the players of most professional sports demanded their full pay at the expense of the clubs existence. They need to look at the bigger picture, cos if the clubs fold there will be no income for them at all.
     
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  16. Somebodys pinched my sombrero

    Somebodys pinched my sombrero Well-Known Member

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    Another 563 today. When will this end ffs?
     
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  17. Riever

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    It's also very likely that if this was all to come to an end by say June and football could restart, Tottenham will probably blow £50m plus in the transfer window, so it's not like they need to claim this.

    I think that UEFA should grow a pair and say that any club that relied or used government hand outs in this period should have a 1 year transfer ban, or before they can buy anybody they have to fully repay what they claimed. That would include is if we went down this route.
     
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  18. Blond Bombshell

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    The Premier League and EFL have agreed that the season cannot resume until it is fully "safe and appropriate to do so"
     
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  19. Smug in Boots

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    Was someone paid actual money to make that statement?

    It's like saying 'we can't allow anyone into the stadium until the bomb disposal unit has finished.
     
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  20. Sandy Camel

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    Fair play to those in the game that have already taken cuts or deferrals on wages to help out, hope others follow suit. It's not like they can't afford it, especially the higher earners.
     
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