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Off Topic Corona virus - non football

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by SAFCDRUM, Mar 16, 2020.

  1. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    There's only one way to transmit the virus which, as we all know, is human contact.

    If people go out on day one and don't feel infected, they'll grow more confident every day ...

    ... people will be infected, the government will blame the public and off we go again.
     
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  2. DH4

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    No scientific or medical experts at the lecterns today. Signs that the government have "moved on" from scientific and medical advice as they think they know better?
     
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  3. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    357 people died in a day yet Hancock seems quite proud of his 'achievements' ...

    ... we had 3 weeks staring at Italians and Spanish dropping like flies before we got our arse into gear.

    We had a bloody great big moat around the country but just let people come and go as they pleased.

    There was no testing, people were flying back 'n forth to Spain for holidays and mass sporting events carrying on as normal.

    Shameful by any standards tbh.
     
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  4. SAFCDRUM

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    We've just had a letter from school, via Tameside council, saying that as R is above 1 in Manchester advice to local schools is not to reopen now until 22nd June. Shocker.
     
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  5. SAFCDRUM

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    That's when he was able to answer a question and not stutter around. Does not inspire confidence.
     
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  6. Gil T Azell

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    Or did they refuse to come out?
     
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  7. Smug in Boots

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    Good point mate.

    The PM, and senior ministers, have continually excused their many mistakes by saying they were following advice from scientists ...

    ... even Cummings used them to shamelessly excuse his behaviour.

    If I was a scientist I'd certainly be taking the central advice and 'washing my hands' of the lot of them.
     
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  8. one gary owers

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    I really want to take my wife to a restaurant and have a Sirlion steak Nothing more well some chips salad and french mustard
     
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  9. Perritts Parrot

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    Just watched report about the vietnamese football starting again. Full crowds, no social distancing, full on game. Straight away I'm saying to myself that its f****** madness...... then the reporter tells us that they've only had 300 cases and ZERO deaths. Take a f****** long hard look in the mirror Boris, Cummings et al. Britain 40,000 + Vietnam 0. My minds struggling to take this in .
     
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  10. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    I've never been that interested in who's in power, the UK pretty much runs itself no matter how inept the PM or his cabinet.

    This is different and it's a wee bit scary.

    Boris Johnson seems to have realised that the job isn't right for him and wishes that someone else was in charge.

    His obvious need to cling onto his creepy advisor was an indication that without such people he'd be lost.

    But for me the constant boasting about the 'successes' and 'achievements' is the most worrying aspect.

    They either believe it or think that we're all gullible idiots ...

    ... neither is particularly encouraging.
     
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  11. Perritts Parrot

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    There are lots of aspects that are worrying me smug , not least these demonstrators planning these protests this weekend. They'll be doing more harm to the black and brown people that they're supposed to be supporting, it beggars belief again as it's been reported all over that they are more likely to catch covid.
     
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  12. Sunderpitt

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    An independant investigation is needed to find out why the effect of Covid 19 has been so bad in the UK, compared with other countries.

    We need to know what Bonko, Cummings et al got so wrong so that the mistakes are not repeated!
     
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  13. Gil T Azell

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    Interesting article about when the virus came over here

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52935644

    And to answer your question about what they got wrong here is a quote from it;

    Countries which introduced strict social distancing measures or had effective test and isolate measures early on in their epidemics have tended to emerge from lockdowns or controls with far fewer deaths than others.

    Now that antibody tests are becoming more widely available, it should be possible for NHS staff, and later the public, to check whether they have previously been infected with coronavirus.

    But it won't tell them when they had the infection. So that hacking cough, high temperature or loss of taste and smell you had early this year really might have been Covid-19. But then again, unless your swab, blood or tissue samples are sitting in a pathology department somewhere awaiting re-analysis, we will probably never know.
     
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  15. Sunderpitt

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    Yep

    what annoys me, is that as the NHS is a big countrywide organisation with a big budget, we are able to have a large number of specialised experts that other smaller health services in other countries do not have.

    So the playbook the NHS experts put together to combat a pandemic was widely circulated. Germany used it and so did others countries, we did not.

    1. Did not have sufficient PPE or ability to produce in the UK
    2. Did not have sufficient ventilators
    3. Did not have track and trace system in place
    4. Did not make Care Homes a high priority (indeed we seemed to have sent Covid 19 patients to them!)
    5. Did not do lockdown quickly enough, or close our borders right away, enabling the virus to spread far and wide. As it hit London first and it gets the most visitors/travellers I guess that is why. It then rippled out to the rest of the country. Thanks Cummings, who panicked and fled London as the scale of the problem increased, ie. he and his boss caught it.

    I could go on

    Personally I reckon Bonko and his chums should resign for the appalling way they have handled the crisis and continue to. Cancelling briefings, giving out orders off the cuff (nobody knowing about it). Using poor statistics (to have the UKs head statistician, say your figure/graphs are crap, is pretty damning), not sacking Cummings etc
     
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  16. Jerry lee

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    204 lastest death figures
     
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  17. TopClub

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    Just read that Angela Merkel has a doctorate in quantum chemistry. Compare that with a degree in ancient greek from the bullindon club. Almost all of the cabinet have degrees in spin from oxford.
    They dont know how to tell the truth or answer questions and treat covid like an election campaign.
    I hated thatcher but you could not call her incompetent like this lot.
    A simple saliva test is available that can give a result in 20 minutes, which they are supposed to be testing and I would love to know when it will be available. The test they use now apparently can give over 20% false negatives, not that they will ever admit that.
     
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  18. DH4

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    Boris Johnson's ex teacher tended to agree with your opinion of him <laugh> DzIddMcWwAwuMVW.jpg
     
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  19. Sunderpitt

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    Have you got any proof the letter is genuine (what it says is very true)...but I would like to use it but not if fake news as it were!
     
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  20. FTM Dave

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    Spot on. Three extra weeks to prepare and three weeks to see where the Italians and the Spanish had ballsed up and avoid their mistakes. There is no way that the death toll in Britain should be so much worse than Italy, it should be the other way round, that's just common sense (add to that that Italy has a much higher percentage of old people).
     
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