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Off Topic Coronavirus - 606 tales from the Inquiry

Discussion in 'Charlton' started by lardiman, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. Sat In Greenwich

    Sat In Greenwich Well-Known Member

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    i actually believe the footballers are correct not to take a pay cut. for two reasons.

    first is, they're planning on giving a huge chunk directly to the nhs. if they take the paycut, the only people profitting are the owners - who mainly come from overseas.

    the second is that they've been publicly called out. why weren't the other millionaires? i'm sure a huge portion of them already do good deeds.
     
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  2. lardiman

    lardiman The truth is out there
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    Other millionaires are not role models and heroes worshiped by millions of kids.
    Other millionaires don't have thousands of adoring fans sing their names every Saturday.
    Other millionaires don't flaunt their gangsta bling on social media and turn their lives and diva behaviour into soap operas.

    When these players announce their generous gift to the NHS, do they really expect all will be forgiven and we'll take them back into our hearts?

    The fact is, Football players in the Premier League are untouchable.
    Their financial security is proof against anything, including Public opinion and Coronavirus.

    We are supposed to all be in this together. But that doesn't include them. They're alright Jack.
     
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  3. Sat In Greenwich

    Sat In Greenwich Well-Known Member

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    there are worse culprits. i think they should have been targetted first.

    take branson. he wants billions of our money now to bail out his air line so he doesnt have to use money from his own billions. it's bad enough he's sacked his entire staff. little has been made about his demand for billions.... instead focused on players who would contribute a million or two instead.

    then you have the likes of amazon, still profiteering from all of this and paying no tax. and the likes of google, facebook...
     
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  4. lardiman

    lardiman The truth is out there
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    They are all despicable. The likes of Branson and Mike Ashley have always been contemptible.
    But by-and-large those kinds of figures don't care what people think of them.

    Footballers have milked the industry for every penny they can since Bosman.
    They have squeezed and squeezed, distorting the entire sport and leading it to the brink of ruin before this crisis erupted.
    But they still yearn to be admired, even worshiped.

    Now their Union says they should carry on being paid in full, when everybody else has had to accept sacrifices.
    Millions of self employed have lost their livelihoods because nobody wants their skills right now.
    Nobody wants the skills of footballers either, but their obscenely lavish pay is 100% bullet-proof.
    And most of them have big gated houses (or mansions) with loads of garden space. So even the lockdown is just a minor nuisance to them.

    Let Wayne Rooney try living under lockdown rules for weeks in a one bedroom 15th floor flat.
    He wouldn't think he was so hard done by then.

    It may be an emotional backlash rather than an entirely reasoned response, but I am utterly sick of the way modern footballers behave.
    I fervently hope that this crisis will burst the 20 year bubble of ever expanding wages for players.
    The longest, greediest gravy train in sporting history - please let it be derailed forever.
     
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  5. Sat In Greenwich

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    if they take a paycut. then the nhs does not get a large donation.

    if they keep their pay and donate it's fine by me. i dont think the media light should have been shone on them so early on, especially before other people in better places to help (e.g. owners of the Excel centre) were "outed"
     
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  6. lardiman

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    Fair point.
    We're not really in disagreement on this I think, apart from emphasis perhaps.

    The owners of ExCel charging rent was an absolute scandal, I was furious when I read about that.
    They did a U-turn pretty quick, fortunately for them.
    Disgusting attitude though, until they were exposed.

    Well done to the Scottish Sun on Sunday by the way.

    If that stupid woman in charge of telling everybody to stay at home in Scotland had not been photographed by them, she would probably have taken yet another weekend off at her second home, the hypocrite.

    Folks North of the Border - it's tempting to say please yourselves now. She did.
    But I hope most will have more sense than she showed.
     
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  7. lardiman

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    New this morning is that Dr Calderwood has rightly resigned.
    She had no credibility left. Why should anybody in Scotland listen to the advice of a hypocrite?

    Unfortunately there will be a number of dim people who will decide to break the lockdown rules just because she did.
    In my opinion Dr Calderwood did not just make 'mistakes'.
    'Human error' as she called it just doesn't wash as an excuse.
    She knowingly and deliberately twice disregarded the rules, presumably because they just did not suit her.
    That is a grave (and effectively criminal) error of judgment.
     
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  8. lardiman

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    Dorks of the Day ... 6th April

    :emoticon-0164-cash: Airbnb :emoticon-0164-cash:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-52184497

    Trying to make money advertising "COVID19 retreats" they are taking bookings for properties in the countryside with NO vetting,
    even though the Lockdown Rules say only essential workers (NHS etc.) can stay away from home.

    Airbnb hosts have been complaining that the lockdown has disrupted their business.
    Oh, my heart is breaking :emoticon-0153-broke
    Some of these people make Rigsby look like a respectable landlord.
     
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  9. lardiman

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    More and more people are pressuring the Government for some kind of timetable to lift the lockdown restrictions.

    I agree strongly with the point that others have made, that if people begin looking forward to a future date when rules will be eased, some will begin to begin bending the rules more and more - because they will take the attitude that the worst is behind us and socialising again isn't dangerous anymore.

    This is only human nature, but it cannot be allowed to happen.
    Social contact before the scientists say it is safe will allow the virus to surge again, and will cost lives.
    It is difficult to be patient, but we must accept that hanging onto the hope of some future date to go outside again is not the right frame of mind to have.

    We must remember what is most important; saving lives by following the rules.
    We must put others before ourselves.
     
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  10. Smudger603

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    Unfortunately lardy some people/ morons will not abide by the rules until it hits them directly, personally I hope the lockdown stays in place at least another 2-3 weeks minimum as I would hate for this bloody virus to hit us again in a second wave!
     
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  11. The Elfsborg Sparrow

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    The second wave is a worry that could throw things back into further chaos.
     
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    We've virtually been locked in our own homes , surely they should give us some information as to what happens over the next few weeks.
     
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  13. lardiman

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    I suppose they could set out a plan based on when certain targets are reached etc.

    So (very simply) when we have X number of tests per day and new cases fall below Y per day and fatalities fall below Z,
    we can begin to relax the lock-down; perhaps along these lines;
    • Allowing family visits between households.
    • Allowing self-employed people like gardeners, window cleaners etc. to visit people's homes for work purposes.
    • Allowing a few more shops to open (but still with social distancing I should think).
    This is pure guesswork, but I think when the rules are relaxed it will be done gradually, like this.
    With at least 3 to 4 weeks between each step to make sure virus infections don't surge again.

    But when the numbers X, Y and Z will allow any changes, nobody will be able to say.

    Perhaps we should look to China & East Asia to see how quickly they are relaxing their lockdowns.
     
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  14. The Elfsborg Sparrow

    The Elfsborg Sparrow Well-Known Member

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    Nailed it.
     
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  15. Miketyson2007Junior

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    Every pandemic in recorded history has had at least two waves. That said this is the first pandemic where we've had mass communication and can coordinate across continents.
     
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  16. The Elfsborg Sparrow

    The Elfsborg Sparrow Well-Known Member

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    Nice to hear from you mate, I was worried you had developed 'Kojakitis'.
     
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  17. The Elfsborg Sparrow

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    Just been on a 3-way chat with a mate in my old 'hometown' in Sweden. I was just about to f*** off over there for a few days as it's still business as usual, they are around 4 weeks behind England, and was looking to go into my old local.

    I came back down to earth with a bang when he said flights between England and Sweden close this Thursday<wah>
     
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  18. Ken Shabby

    Ken Shabby Well-Known Member

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    I don't imagine they can set specific dates for raising lock down ,- it'll be dependent on a lot of factors.
    As an addition, worrying news that Boris has been moved to intensive care. Best wishes to him, this virus is a f ucker.
     
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  19. The Elfsborg Sparrow

    The Elfsborg Sparrow Well-Known Member

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    The situation we are in at the moment is very concerning, putting it mildly.

    However, the future with the economy and a vast increase in unemployment figures is not a very nice though either.

    The loss of live overides all of course.
     
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  20. The Elfsborg Sparrow

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    Glad to see 'the sulk' has not slapped a ban on you Kenneth.
     
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