Off Topic Coronavirus and NOTHING to do with football thread

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  1. andytoprankin

    andytoprankin Well-Known Member

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    Inspired by Markthehorn’s comment on the ‘Coronavirus and football’ thread:

    “Is there not some political/business forum you can use - or create another thread?

    This Is supposed to be about football and Coronavirus….or at least discuss the situation without points scoring?“

    Mark was right. Please post glib and sycophantic political comment et cetera, here.
     
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    Here's a starter.. Anyone got the hard science on face masks? I managed to get a couple of the level two ones..
    Seeing millions of people wearing them overseas on TV, including medical workers, police, ec but the advice here is they are no good.. is that true??
     
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    From what I’ve heard, their best defence is to intervene when you unthinkingly touch your face.
     
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    My understanding is that it depends upon where the advice came from!!

    Medics in Singapore have been advising that any type of mask will provide protection - even homemade ones made out of cloth with a couple of rubber bands to fit around your ears would provide upto 95% of the protection needed as long as it stops infected droplets from getting in your mouth or nose. And, possibly outside of African countries, Singapore seems to be leading the way in terms of fighting the virus.

    Trump, on the other hand, has been accused of deliberately lying when he claimed that masks offered minimal protection - simply because he knew that the US couldn't manufacture the numbers needed in the time available.

    Maybe I'm just a fatalist - but I think that all we can do is take the 'holistic' approach - socially withdraw or self-isolate, cover up where you can with what you can and maintain hand hygiene. And buy a thermometer - medical advice is to only seek help if your temperature goes beyong 103.5F - I'm not too sure that many would be able to guage that without the help of one.
     
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    My son in law works for an international company, so he has some very odd hours as he communicates with people across many time zones. He has been able to do this for a number of years since he converted part of his garage into an office, working all the time from there. His office bound fellow workers are now all working from home, and he is seeing them via video calls. His comments are not about the move round of the office furniture but about the style of lampshades that people have in their homes. :emoticon-0100-smile
     
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    Of course any type of mask will provide some protection - not 100% but then no method is going to be 100% certain if it is taken in isolation. The idea of not contacting medical authorities until your temperature rises to a certain level is likely to lead to the majority of cases being undiagnozed.
     
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    But that is exactly what NHS have advised us to do.
     
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    Nurse Scullion says basic masks become less effective when they get damp.
    The nurse is currently awaiting her conscription papers. :(
     
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    Disappointed. Always thought yours was as blue as mine. Expect no further communication. :emoticon-0110-tongu
     
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    Toilet roll panic buying is leading to blocked sewers as people with no loo paper are forced to use alternatives, a water company has warned.

    Northumbrian Water said householders were flushing wipes, kitchen roll and newspaper.

    The company said it understood people were "only improvising" but the consequences could be "devastating" to homes and the environment.
     
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  14. Bolton's Boots

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    Wait until they start with the disposable nappies...

    We had to call out Scottish Water to unblock the buchan trap outside our rear gate. It was easy to identify the culprits - the only house in the vicinity that uses disposable nappies. They weren't too happy when the plumbers confronted them - and moved out shortly after.
     
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    As long as it's O for ordinaire you'll both be fine.
     
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    O de vie?
     
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    Good advice from a UK Consultant working with Covid19 in Italy

    “What I have seen a lot of are recommendations for how to try to avoid getting coronavirus in the first place -- good hand washing, personal hygiene and social distancing -- but what I have NOT seen a lot of is advice for what happens if you actually get it, which many of us will. So as your friendly neighborhood Nurse let me make some suggestions:

    You basically just want to prepare as though you know you’re going to get a nasty respiratory bug, like bronchitis or pneumonia. You just have the foresight to know it might come your way!

    Things you should actually buy ahead of time (not sure what the obsession with toilet paper is?):
    Kleenex,
    Paracetamol,
    whatever your generic, mucus thinning cough medicine of choice is (check the label and make sure you're not doubling up on Paracetamol)
    Honey and lemon can work just as well!
    Vick vaporub for your chest is also a great suggestion.

    If you don’t have a humidifier, that would be a good thing to buy and use in your room when you go to bed overnight. (You can also just turn the shower on hot and sit in the bathroom breathing in the steam).

    If you have a history of asthma and you have a prescription inhaler, make sure the one you have isn’t expired and refill it/get a new one if necessary.

    This is also a good time to meal prep: make a big batch of your favorite soup to freeze and have on hand.

    Stock up on whatever your favorite clear fluids are to drink - though tap water is fine you may appreciate some variety!

    For symptom management and a fever over 38°c, take Paracetamol rather than Ibuprofen.

    Hydrate (drink!) hydrate, hydrate!
    Rest lots. You should not be leaving your house! Even if you are feeling better you may will still be infectious for fourteen days and older people and those with existing health conditions should be avoided!
    Ask friends and family to leave supplies outside to avoid contact.

    You DO NOT NEED TO GO TO THE HOSPITAL unless you are having trouble breathing or your fever is very high (over 39°C) and unmanaged with meds. 90% of healthy adult cases thus far have been managed at home with basic rest/hydration/over-the-counter meds.

    If you are worried or in distress or feel your symptoms are getting worse, ring 111 and they will advise if you need to go to hospital. The hospital beds will be used for people who actively need oxygen/breathing treatments/IV fluids.

    If you have a pre-existing lung condition (COPD, emphysema, lung cancer) or are on immunosuppressants, now is a great time to talk to your Doctor or specialist about what they would like you to do if you get sick.

    One major relief to you parents is that kids do VERY well with coronavirus— they usually bounce back in a few days (but they will still be infectious), Just use pediatric dosing .

    Be calm and prepare rationally and everything will be fine. Share this as it's great advice!"
     
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    This came my way today emailed by a friend

    I) Door to door sales of Corvid 19 tests at £20 a time.

    2) "Banks" phoning offering financial help to get through this crisis. All they ask is for bank details.

    There are always some bastards.
     
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    Very sensible but she forgot to add whiskey to the honey & lemon drink - well that's what we do up here in Scotland. :emoticon-0162-coffe
     
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