Coronavirus: Please use this thread for all COVID19 talk!

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  1. saintrichie123

    saintrichie123 Well-Known Member

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    Got the new year gatherings to come yet :(
     
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  2. Libby

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    Cases coming down considerably which is good. Hospital admissions and deaths are a couple weeks behind so hopefully things will be a lot better come mid-february.
     
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  3. Archers Road

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    The infection rate has been coming down consistently for a week now. Hospital admission and death rates are lagging behind, as they did in March/April last year.
     
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    Yep. In the 60,000s for cases last week. I the 30,000s ish for this week.

    lockdown seems to be working
     
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  6. Libby

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    It will never be eradicated.
     
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  7. St Badger

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    Fair enough. I should have put controlled, so will edit my post.
     
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    That's Glastonbury off again :emoticon-0101-sadsm
     
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  9. saintrichie123

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  11. Libby

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    Changed my mind and gonna have my first jab tomorrow.
     
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  12. Saints Fan4Life

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    Good luck - Your a braver man than me ... I'm a long, long way down the list though <laugh>
     
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  13. Libby

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    I would be based purely on clinical decision but I'm actually at the top lol.

    Can't risk Georgia not letting me in to watch Saints come September.
     
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    <applause><applause><applause>
     
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  15. saintrichie123

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    Good man :emoticon-0148-yes:
     
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  16. Ivan Golac's shoe laces

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    Had my first jab yesterday , Pfizer one. They warn you that your arm you might ache a bit the next day......yes it does and then some. Had it done at the QA hospital in Portsmouth, they are doing a sterling job and very well organised.
     
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  17. Ian Thumwood

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    There was an article on the BBC website which made the same observation yesterday which stated that the data analysed by scientists was suggestive that there was indeed a lag and that these figures being reported on the "Government dash board" predate Christmas. The "downward trend" , they suggest, is no such think and have mooted that it is a dip that will pick up to higher levels over the next two weeks. There was a strong suggestion that the figures have not peaked.

    Had the consequences not been so tragic, the analysing of data by varying scientists would have been fascinating. On Wednesday, the BBC was reporting that data from scientists in Israel had demonstrated that the Pfizer vaccine was markedly less effective than had been suggested. Yesterday, the Israeli government dismissed these claims as did the scientific community in the UK who were critical of the manner in which incomplete data had been assessed. The way data has been employed recently does appear to show that scientists have been better informed since March 2020. Ten months ago, the suggestion was that the situation would be under control by September 2020 and this date seems to be constantly revised and pushed back - it now seems like September 2021 is more likely as a date when some degree of control will be achieved. The vaccination programme will not be the panacea some people expect but I think it will make life more tolerable.

    What I feel is not being considered is that the world will be at risk so long as there are country's who are not or cannot manage the pandemic. Everyone in the UK seems either totally focussed on what it happening in this country or considering countries like the US, New Zealand, parts of Europe and maybe parts of South America - the latter probably being for reassurance that there are other politicians who are handling the pandemic worse than Boris. As I said previously, the elephant in the room is China. I have read of two outbreaks in China in the last fortnight yet neither is getting much attention in the media which seems more concerned about writing about reporting restrictions and the official position taken by the Chinese government when considering Covid in that country. It is frightening for me that no one appears to be commenting on the situation in China other than to moot that the Chinese claims to have previously managed the situation are too optimistic. The global media and world governments need to make China more accountable as to how they are managing Covid.

    China was likely to be the source of the original outbreak. The issues with "wet markets" and the overall failure of accountability when factored in to a developing as opposed to a developed economy always strikes me as making this country the biggest global risk with a second wave. A resurgent outbreak in China is deeply worrying because the Chinese government failed 12 months ago to contain the initial one by acting too late. We have seen how dreadful a second wave can be in the UK when things are not managed correctly and the inaction by Boris gave the virus a "window" to mutate. With the restrictions in China likely to have a delaying effect in future and given the size of the Chinese population, I fear that in the future either the most virulent strain of this virus or the greatest number of mutations will prove to emanate from China. Countries like the UK , US and Brazil have dealt with Coronavirus in a cavalier fashion yet the potential for China to mismanage this pandemic a second time strikes me as by far the biggest global risk. It is a disgrace that the Chinese are not being held accountable by the rest of the world as there is a big onus on them to get their house in order. China has the potential to allow more virulent strains to evolve given the size of their population and the situation is not helped by cultural and political issues. Whilst I can appreciate how difficult things are for the UK government to mange the pandemic internally, China has the ability to scupper everything we have done to contain Covid. Anyone talking about the easing of restrictions and vaccine roll-out will need to be doing this with one eye concentrating on what is happening in China.
     
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  18. Le Tissier's Laces

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    There absolutely needs to be a coordinated global approach to vaccines and potential new pandemics. I hope that this horror of a couple of years will be the kickstart to governments starting to work together on these things, but I'm not holding my breath on that one.
     
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