Off Topic Coronavirus

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  1. sb_73

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    You’re welcome.

    I just got a text from my local NHS saying that if I feel poorly or think I’ve been exposed to the virus, stay at home and call 111 for advice. As I was suggesting.
     
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    You're the best.<cool>
     
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    Harvard Professor Says 40-70 Per Cent of People Worldwide Will Be Infected With Coronavirus
    Says asymptomatic nature of virus means it “will ultimately not be containable.”

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    Harvard epidemiology professor Marc Lipsitch says that the coronavirus will not be containable and that 40-70 of people worldwide will be infected.

    In an article entitled You’re Likely to Get the Coronavirus, the Atlantic explains how the coronavirus is particularly dangerous because it may cause cause no symptoms at all in many carriers of the infection.

    According to Harvard epidemiology professor Marc Lipsitch, this contributes to his prediction that coronavirus “will ultimately not be containable.”

    “Lipsitch predicts that, within the coming year, some 40 to 70 percent of people around the world will be infected with the virus that causes COVID-19,” reports the Atlantic.

    The professor clarifies that this doesn’t mean all of those victims will become seriously ill and that “many will have mild disease, or may be asymptomatic.”

    However, given the increasingly stringent measures being taken outside of China to stop the spread of the virus, including in Italy where people are being prevented from leaving towns, one wonders how severe the panic will be if there is a massive global pandemic.

    As we highlighted earlier, with 165 cases reported in Italy, store shelves in some areas of the country are already beginning to empty.

    Meanwhile, a World Health Organization adviser says that coronavirus could be the widely feared ‘Disease X’ that experts have been warning about for years.

    “Whether it will be contained or not, this outbreak is rapidly becoming the first true pandemic challenge that fits the Disease X category, listed to the WHO’s priority list of diseases for which we need to prepare in our current globalised society,” wrote Prof Marion Koopmans.
     
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    @kiwiqpr Why?...

    40-70 Per Cent of People Worldwide Will Be Infected With Coronavirus

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    Why oh why do people drink this s$"t...<yikes><doh>




































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    Doctor what if it's Man Flu?
     
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    Then sit in your favourite armchair, covered in blankets, moaning quietly but insisting “no, no, I’m fine really, it’s just a bit of a cold, I’ll be back at work tomorrow - 102 isn’t a fever is it?” Whenever you are asked how you are feeling, while watching the cricket.

    I thought all men knew this, it’s in the manual.

    Oh, and make a will.
     
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    Thanks Doc.....
     
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    Must say that things do seem to be escalating somewhat.
    I wonder if there's something we're not being told?

    Our resident experts, Dr Stan and Dr Beth should put our minds at rest though. :biggrin:
     
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    Perhaps the government could chip in with some info too.
     
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    The shadow health secretary was on TV this morning and said he was happy with the government's handling of the situation and e everyone seems agreed that we are well prepared for any eventualities.
    I just wonder whether the risk is a bit greater than it seems.
     
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    Undoubtedly it is, the government would never admit it as the panic that would ensue would make things far worse. I guess we'll get a far better idea of things over the next week or two as we see what develops in Italy and the rest of Europe. Doesn't look like my flu jab will be much use...
     
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    What's the demographic of those that have deceased is what I'd like to know compared to those that have survived. I just flew in from China this morning but still attended the pub and the Kiyan Prince Foundation Stadium despite feeling like death warmed up. I can't seem to stop sneezing.
     
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    you could be one of those super carriers
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    I feel at risk just typing this to you
     
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    I'm self isolating, only until Saturday when I'll be attending QPR v Brum of course.
     
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    Believe who you like Col, and act as you feel fit. I don’t think the virus is a serious threat to the vast majority of people (all of the Italian deaths, about 10, have been in people aged over 70 - except one in his 60s - with pre existing health conditions). The guy who discovered the Ebola virus was also on the radio yesterday, saying that the virus looks like it can be transferred very easily, but that it has a very low mortality rate, less than 1% worldwide. No denying that the absolute number of deaths will be high if a lot of people get the disease, but it’s not the Black Death or even flu. Children and healthy adults seem pretty likely only to get a mild version, meaning that those most at risk of severe or life threatening disease are exactly the same people at risk from flu.

    What does worry me is the government, NHS capability, and media response. The government is issuing contradictory advice about travel - Matt Hancock says don’t go to Northern Italy, while his own department and the Foreign Office say don’t go to the towns in quarantine (who would?). Schools have closed in Middlesbrough because some pupils were on a skiing trip in the Italian Alps - the head claims he was following advice, the Department of Health say none was issued. The media, all formats, majoring on panic, lock downs, etc and loving it. What none of them are pointing out is that the NHS is performing worse than in decades, with treating people in corridors the norm (199,000 people in December and January treated in these conditions). Even a relatively small influx of patients with COVID 19 could cause the system to collapse, as sick people will infect people already sick with something else. Are we setting up isolation hospitals all over the place?

    But to calm it back down, look up pandemics on the Internet. You will be surprised (I was) how many you have lived through without noticing.
     
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    I hope you get better soon mate.
    I listened to someone from the World Health Organisation who said only 5% of infected people sneeze. This virus makes you cough and quickly spreads to your lungs. Most at risk are people with underling health problems, especially respiratory. For normal healthy people it will be like a flu. What worries them is the fast speading of the virus. We are okay in the UK as we have good medical services whereas third world countries don't. I think I heard that 1% (or just under have died)... that's not many when you talk about 1000 cases but if your are talking a billion cases it's a different story. Best thing they said to do is buy some of that gel for your hands and use it during the day. :emoticon-0148-yes:
     
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    I am of the opinion that it is a bit of a mass hysteria, but people do like a bit of a panic!

    The schools went into overdrive yesterday, we received 3 separate communications. This one probably being the most succinct. The highlights are not mine.
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    It does seem to me to be a lot of fuss about not very much. Regular flu is as big a threat, if not bigger, and the threat from pneumonia is many times greater. I've had pneumonia twice and it's pretty unpleasant. As I'm now officially an old bastard, I was invited to go to my GP for a flu jab last year, and when I was there the nurse said, 'I see you've had pneumonia before, would you like a jab against that?'. So I did, and it turns out that this is something that you only need to have once. I suppose cost is the answer, but why don't they give this to everyone?
     
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