Off Topic Coronavirus

Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Sooperhoop, Feb 8, 2020.

  1. ELLERS

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    Sadly the ‘analysis’ is just speculation, and the Oxford University work has been rubbished by most other academics as using way too many assumptions. We can’t know until we have large scale community testing. The media in it’s need to fill every waking second with stuff, and the academics, with a need to churn stuff out to attract funding, are really doing us no favours.

    The wait for tests is very frustrating. But they won’t be for you and I for weeks if not months. Essential workers first, and then most effectively deployed in testing everyone in a distinct geographical area, apparently, to give a comprehensive picture of the percentages which can then be extrapolated out over bigger populations.
     
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    Would you like to show us this from 'most other academics'?
    Totally agree

    I also think there seems some competition between Oxford and IC. We shouldn't just disregard Oxford because they have just come up with this cheaper ventilator?
     
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    One of the tests for Covid-19 is loss of taste and smell. If you had that and you weren't sneezing, then it could be.

    As to life on the London Underground, the proximity between travellers, people breathing towards you from short distances, is the reason for cold viruses spreading imo. As soon as I stopped travelling on the tube regularly, I stopped getting colds
     
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    Both my wife and my daughter have had loss of taste and smell accompanied by chronic tiredness. Myself and my son had sore throats and coughs also accompanied by severe tiredness. There must be a chance that everyone in my household has had a mild form of the virus. Bring on the antibody tests.
     
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    Which make Khan's original message that it was impossible to catch Coronavirus on the underground the biggest cock-up of all...
     
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    I know the antibody test will indicate if someone had the virus but will we know if they’re immune to getting it again or a slightly different strain? I fear people will think they’re invincible once they know they were asymptomatic and never knew they had it.
     
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    Agreed. It does sound like that. I guess you should be putting yourselves into isolation for the required period

    Yes, agree about the tests
     
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    It is unbelievable that he said that. It must be the worst place of all, short of holding a naked swingers party in Hyde Park
     
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    I believe from what the medical officer said yesterday the antibody tests were different from other tests and can tell if you are asymptomatic. If you are clear and then get a cold it won't be Covid-19. He said it was like a pregnancy test and takes 15 minutes. I believe that they want your result data so they can work out a model of the spread. You get a number and put it online. SB was correct in that frontline will get the test first and Stroller was correct in that we (us) will probably have to wait some time. I guess if we want to blame the government for something then the test kits is their achilles heel, as Germany and some others had plenty. Plus testing has proved effective in South Korea. Can you imagine the fallout if after the testing 50-70% had it and didn't need to self isolate? The ironic thing about all of this is the kits will be made in China. <doh>
     
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    We don't know if people will be immune forever once they have had it once, but it is most likely they will...if infected by exactly the same strain.
    It is the basis of flu vaccines...which only work for that years particular strain....but may give some protection to other strains

    Likely that there will be some crossreactivity between strains; that is where you get partial immunity to the new strain. We know that is the case as one of the medicines being developed is an artificial antibody that has been made/copied from some one who had SARS a year or so ago. It reacts and destroys CoVID 19. It will take a while to be developed and tested but will be very useful in the future
     
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    Sorry to hear this Bob, keep chin up and I hope it’s not as seems.
     
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    Cheers Turkish. Much the same as yesterday really. Slightly high temp, aches and a head ache. No cough though. It could be anything but due to lack of testing we have to presume it's the virus.
     
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    All football from Step 3 downwards declared null & void, meaning no promotion or relegation. Tough on Jersey Bulls who had won all 27 league games setting a record that is now expunged...

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52052351
     
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    Way to go to **** the low band self employed with no savings. Live on fresh air until June, or five weeks for Universal Credit. Presumably the alleged advance payment is deducted from the official payments once the claim comes through.

    And just to make the pill more bitter, all those who take the risk of self employment on themselves will have to pay for this bailout later on through tax punishment.

    Peston is today’s death rattle journo.
     
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    If I read it right, we can apply for 80% of our profits - I made just over £3K profit last year, so would be eligible for just over £200 a month - cheers Rishi :emoticon-0148-yes: I'm well ****ed if I have to stop working
     
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    Did you pay yourself out of your company? Surely that pay has to be included as ‘profit’? Or can you then apply as a business to support your employee salary? My wife, who has only just gone back into PAYE after 7 years paying herself the minimum wage and taking dividends from her company was heaving a sigh of relief (sorry). I don’t think this bloke has done you or himself any favours here. My lad has already been texting - as a 24 year old builder with a 24 year old’s lifestyle He has nothing to fall back on, he’s fortunate to have an understanding landlord who also owns the company he works for, and also to be kept afloat by us as needed. Others will be far less lucky.
     
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    But if you're a director of a company doesn't that make you a paye worker and not self employed? Self Employed are taxed under Schedule D Case 1 which is based on profits whereas Directors are taxed under PAYE and the Company is taxed under Corporation Tax...…..
     
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