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Discussion in 'The Premier League' started by brb, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. Treble

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  2. brb

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    Who Andy Burnham, do you think he could be?

    Probably do a better job than Starmer to be fair.
     
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    Time will tell with Starmer, I still think it's too early to tell and the country's far too fcked for many reasons to gauge it right now.

    But Burnham is defo a future Labour leader in the making.

    Might not happen mind, as politics is unpredictable but he'd get far more support from the off if he ever became leader imo.
     
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    I don't mind listening to Burnham, he's very passionate, I don't always agree with him, but I agree with nothing regarding Starmer, he's just turned into another Labour puppet.

    Burnham I could be interested in, I like his approach at not just seeing a problem, but knowing what he would do to resolve it.

    Something I strongly believe in don't give me a problem, tell me the solution.
     
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    No politics please.

    Protect the children :emoticon-0148-yes:
     
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  6. Saff

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    Starmer is even weaker than Miliband and that takes some doing. He's a pathetic, gutless little **** who will never endeavour himself with the electorate.

    I don't mind Burnham. The only issue I see with him is his inability to judge and manage situations but he's still relatively young and will get the gist of it. I'm talking about the time he was offered money during the lockdown (For Manchester) and he made such a song and dance about it that Manchester ended up with less than they were originally going to receive. He'd be better off toeing the line and not being outspoken.

    He doesn't seem in the mold of Starmer, Corbyn, Rayner, Abbott, Lammy, Ashworth etc. That's a big plus in any sensible persons book and it is what the Labour party needs. I don't think he'd focus on all the woke issues that are losing Labour votes all over the country and he'd hopefully be able to bring most factions together. If it's possible. I personally think the Labour party are a spent force now.
     
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    At the moment he is the only Labour Offering as PM I could get behind. Did the right thing to go as mayor of Manchester and get away from the mess Labour are in, could be 3-5 years before he is in the running.
     
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    If he is a pathetic gutless little ****, does that qualify him for a lifetime's membership of the Tory Party?
     
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    No that's why he is in the Labour party, silly.
     
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    I don’t understand. Are you saying that because the NHS is staffed by human beings, who are fallible, we shouldn’t applaud their efforts?

    What about other essential workers who kept the country running while those who had the luxury, got paid to stay indoors? Is it right to applaud them? Or should we go back to ignoring the unseen army of hard working, often low paid men and women, who make our lives tolerable?
     
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    I see.
     
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    i'll clap for the NHS when they show proper contrition and more importantly show they have learnt from scandal after scandal all of which have the same factors of ignoring warnings and then cover ups of what actually happened .
     
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    The clap for careers thing was about the individuals who were working all hours dealing with the COVID crisis, plain weird that you’ve chosen to conflate it with what was essentially a pharma issue decades ago.
     
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    I was thinking how did take so long for these truths to come out.

    What weird me out was on same page on BBC was them telling people alls cool for vaccinations of the young people's and pregnant women.

    So let's no rush tings yeah...don't wanna talk about issue's in year's 2 come init....2 late en init
     
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    the main thrust of clap for carers , certainly early on , was the NHS and i made the same point at the time ilisting all sorts of other scandals like mid staffs , mesh implants .
     
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    I see both sides of the argument. Not wanting to go into the finer details but I'm also aware of the NHS ****ing up with an individual and then blatantly lying about it to cover their own backs. They aren't angels, far ****ing from it. I don't like the way many of them spend years chasing the career knowing exactly what the wages are and what the job entails but then when a sustained busy period happens then all of a sudden they want big pay rises and to be inundated with praise. How about 'I know it's been a difficult time but thanks for doing your job and I hope you get a little bit of respite when everything settles down to refocus and reenergise?

    They've been great throughout the pandemic. I appreciate it.
     
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    Anyways......why is the globalist system attacking anyone who is speaking up against the vaccine or covid science.......not just here globally.

    Not one of you looked at the vid I posted up about the Canadian doctor's.....or if you did why the silence.

    I'll post it again just incase you missed it which I'm sure you didn't.

    Not on ch4 lol....wake up fkrs

     
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    I have some empathy with this statement. I very much value the NHS but I've had two major incidents with loved ones needing treatment for critical conditions and both times I've had to fight consultants and nurses all the way to look after the best interests of my loved ones.

    At the end of the day you deal with individuals as in every profession, some are good, some are bad, and some have been ground down so much they border on the incompetent or are institutionalised to loss of life that it becomes a statistic for them.
     
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    My main beef is the number of scandals that have been allowed to carry on well after the NHS management were informed that the problem existed but allow the poor / dangerous / lethal behaviours to continue and then they try and cover up the whole thing - over and over again .
    basically imo the NHS as an institution will allow dangerous behaviours to continue rather than bringing them to public notice by disciplining staff .
     
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