Off Topic Covid 19 restrictions are no more as of 19-7-21

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  1. dennisboothstash

    dennisboothstash Well-Known Member

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    Test is working OK, if people bother to get tested, but Trace run nationally hasn’t been as good I don’t think.
    Big question about the timing of putting India on the red list, but also of earlier decisions around whether to control borders, which is a little ironic.
    It wouldn’t be anything to fear that infections would have been higher if the test capacity had been there earlier though, because all that would have done is help people isolate earlier, which would have been a good thing and would have helped (I may have misunderstood your point though?)
    Regardless of whether test capacity is dialled down though, how many people on here are getting tested like they could be doing anyway? (I feel a poll coming on) Does everyone get tested twice a week?
     
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  2. Ernie Shackleton

    Ernie Shackleton Well-Known Member

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    LFD tests twice a week since January.
     
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  3. dennisboothstash

    dennisboothstash Well-Known Member

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    Yeah me too, I’m not sure everyone is though (anyway there’s a poll now so we will soon have definitive proof that can be used by population behaviour researchers n that)
     
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  4. DMD

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    I test nearly every day by coughing and sneezing on my elderly neighbours. If they're okay when I get back, I know I'm still clear. <ok>
     
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  5. Ernie Shackleton

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    To be sure Dutch that's a bloody stupid idea.

    It simply won't work.




    After you've coughed and sneezed on them it's gonna be 2 to 4 days before they start showing symptoms.


    You're gonna have to go back and check them then to make sure that you're still clear.







    You could be putting yourself in danger mate.


    #staysafe
     
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  6. tigerscanada

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    No religion ta!
     
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    You're vergering on Castro's territory.
     
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    You’ve totally lost me there mate. Zero religion in anything I post
     
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  9. Ron Burguvdy

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    rectoric...
     
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  10. Der Alte

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    390k cases in a day, terrible. However our population is 1/20 the of India's and on January 12th we had 40261 new cases - correcting for population difference that would be the equivalent of 805k cases in India. When comparing disease incidence it is always fairest to express the results in cases per 100,000.
    Also, one of the things India picked up from it's colonial days was beurocracy and, despite their apparently chaotic and diverse population, they are really quite good at statistics.
     
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    2 tests a week as per work dictates
     
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  13. DMD

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    A sound in vestment.
     
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  14. Ron Burguvdy

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    Not a fan of The Star but I had to laugh at this...

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  17. highpeak tiger

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    Agreed.
     
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  18. Der Alte

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    Sadly I'm too tight to subscribe to The Economist (although I believe it to be a reliable and unbiased source) so I can't read the full article. However I suspect that it discusses the growing speculation that India's Covid-19 figures have been suppressed to minimise the political damage to Narendra Modi's premiership and his famously horrendous mis-handling of Covid-19 in India. His personal views on Covid and how to deal with it are similar in some ways to those of former president Trump in the USA and he has overseen a very tight control over social media to make sure that failures in the system are not discussed. Communicating with former colleagues (medics) working in India on What's App I have been aware that they are very careful about their message content.
    The estimate that the true rates are about 6 times those published reflects the conclusions of Dr Ashish Jha at the Brown University School of Public Health who has considered the increased demand for cremations at the peak of India's second wave - his findings are thought to be speculative but possibly accurate.
    Now, taking the worst case scenario in the full knowledge that the Covid 19 outbreak in India has been terribly handled we can review our calculations:-

    Population of UK - 68,216,650. Official deaths from Covid 19 currently 127,917 - death rate per 100,000 is 187.52 per 100,000

    Population of India - 1,387,770,263 (20.4 times larger than UK). Official deaths from Covid 19 reported as 377,031 on 15/6/2021 - death rate 27.17 per 100,000

    Assuming that the true death rate for India needs to be increased six fold - adjusted death rate is 163.09 per 100,000

    So, taking India as one example of a country with massive pre-existing social and healthcare problems, where the management of the pandemic has been horrendous and taking the worst case scenario as being a true reflection of their performance we have an estimated death rate of 163.09 per 100,000.
    However, in the UK where we start from a position of strength with a reportedly well structured and organised health care system, our "good" response has only resulted in a death rate of 187.52 per 100,000 - only an approximate 13% higher death rate than India. I still find it difficult to feel positive about our performance.
     
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    Thanks for your information - it paints a woeful, but not surprising, picture of a ****-show.
     
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    Everyone over the age of 18 can book their vaccines from tomorrow.
     
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