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Do you still have faith in Poch ?

Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by Hoddle is a god, Oct 20, 2019.

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Do you still have faith in Poch?

Poll closed Nov 3, 2019.
  1. Yes

    63.3%
  2. No

    36.7%
  1. humanbeingincroydon

    humanbeingincroydon Well-Known Member

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    This thread resembles arsenal fans having a meet and greet with xhaka <whistle>
     
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  3. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    Hmm... Best you don't read my latest post on the "How broken are we" thread then <laugh>
     
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  6. KingHotspur

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    Looks like some people have switched their vote from yes to no.

    Reasons why?
     
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  7. KingHotspur

    KingHotspur Well-Known Member

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    Stole this from twitter-


    Wow.... Just seen the comparison between Pochs last 30 games and Gross's 30 games.

    Just imagine how ****e the squad was that Gross had. This really hammers home just how bad it is.

    Gross - 30 games
    10 wins
    8 draws
    12 defeats

    Poch - last 30 games
    10 wins
    6 draws
    14 defeats
     
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  8. humanbeingincroydon

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    Let me guess...
    * A quote after the Saltypool game that was blatantly taken out of context
    * A blatantly misleading stat that tried to turn Lo Celso completing the least passes against Saltypool into an Eriksen-bashing session
     
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  9. remembercolinlee

    remembercolinlee Well-Known Member

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    Gross was in charge of 27 league games in total

    97/98
    Palace (L), Everton (w) Chelsea (L)
    Coventry (L) Barnsley (w) Villa (L) Arsenal (d) Man U (L) west ham (w)
    Derby (L) Blackburn (w) Leicester (d)
    Wednesday (L) Bolton (w) Leeds (L)
    Liverpool (d) palace (w) everton (d) chelsea (L) Coventry (d) Barnsley (d) Newcastle (w) Wimbledon (w) Southampton (d)

    Wins 8
    Draws 7
    Losses 9

    1998/99
    Wimbledon (L) Wednesday (L)
    Everton (w)

    Won 1
    Lost 2

    So Gross's record is
    wins 9
    Draws 7
    Losses 11

    34 points

    Pochettino's last 27 matches are...
    Won 10
    Draw 5
    Losses 12

    35 points


    It also ignore a CL league final.
    I could also mention the 6-1 home defeat to Chelsea and us only being safe from relegstion 3 gsmes from the end of the season.
    And I could slso point out the stark differences in how many games we played against the top teams in each run.

    Our record is not good but for others to put inaccurate "facts" on social media does not help a rational debate.

    Moral?
    It aint called twatter for nothing.
     
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  10. KingHotspur

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    Fair enough it isn’t accurate but the difference is 1 point. I’m not for any second saying Poch is as bad as Gross but it shows how bad things are atm.

    Plus this team according to many people is the best we’ve had in decades and the team Gross has was dire.
     
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    I know you ain't...my dig was at people putting up unfair comparisons.

    I think we have a right to question what is happening but for people to ignore the CL run last season is ridiculously biased imo.
    And while I (like you and others) have been critical I (again like you and others) can also see that we have been unlucky with injuries...Lo Celso, Sessegnon and Ndombele havr sll missed considerable amounts as has Foyth and Dsvies.

    There are undoubted issues but imho I think that we will get stronger as these 5 get game time.

    The performance v Liverpool was a huge improvement (though not great by a long way) as was the performance v Red Star.

    I am hoping we see yet another step on our road to recovery tomorrow... this is why I still hsve faith in Pochettino.
     
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  12. The Changing Man

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    I think that the stats are quite revealing but like RCL I hope that the small green shoots of recovery seen in the last couple games are continued today, because this slump cannot and in all likelihood will not be allowed to go on much longer.

    With regards Gross, he was just hopeless, and whilst the overall quality of todays team is undeniably better, he could call on the likes of Anderton, Ginola, Ferdinand, Klinsmann, Carr, Judas, and world cup finalist Nicola Berti! So there was a smattering of very good players available to him and Ramon Vega and Ruel Fox!
     
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    It's difficult to slash your wrists with modern safety razors.
     
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    Try a Victorinox Fibrox Santoku

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  16. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    To be fair Tanguy's only missed two games through injury while Davies has been fit for about 5-6 weeks now. I'd also say Foyth could've featured more as he played 90 and 77 minutes for Argentina yet was benched on his return against Watford (maybe understandable due to travelling back), got 15 mins vs Red Star and was then dropped completely for Pool. Whilst Gio has certainly missed a considerable amount, I think he needs to be getting more than 5-10 minute cameos otherwise he'll never truly get to the fitness levels we need him to be at. Would be great if he started today, get about 60 minutes under his belt and begin what will hopefully be a successful spell at Spurs for him.
     
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    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    Aaaand it’s still a no.
     
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  18. KingHotspur

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    I get we all have different views and opinions but how does anyone still have faith in a manager who doesn’t seem to be doing anything to change this 10month slump?

    Spurs haven’t won an away league game since Jan, that is absolutely ridiculous.

    Poch won’t do the decent thing and resign as it will cost him a cushy pay off so it’s time for Levy to get rid and get in someone who can shake these players up.
     
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  19. Citizen Kane.

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    It's wearing thin. Still a yes and will be until the end of the season unless we find ourselves in a relegation scrap before then.

    Top 4 is gone. We have to accept that reality now before it hits later down the line and hurts more.

    I just can't see anything remotely resembling a plan, shape or direction but will continue biding my patience until we see Gio and Sess get some proper game time.
     
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  20. KingHotspur

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    12 league games without an away win. Closing in on the all time record of 14
     
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