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  1. shortrun

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    hi wondering if any1 can help me work out return for golf bet,i backed keegan bradley at 66/1 €10 each way 1/4 odds paying 6 places, as he tied for 4th along with 4 others was wondering how do the bookies settle this bet as don't do many golf bets, is it like a dead heat in horse racing or do i get 1/4,
     
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  2. Ron

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    I have no idea what they do but if they were paying on 6 places then, if your bet had tied with with 2 others, it would have been simple (ie 1/4 odds). And had your bet finished 6th tying with 2 others you would have received 1/4 odds to 1/3 of your stake. I would imagine that, with 4th, 5th and 6th places each qualifying for 1/4 odds (ie 3 places), the 5 tied 4th places would each be deemed to have dead heated with 2 others (ie 5 places taken, minus the 3 available).

    That's just my guess but it should be covered in the bookmaker's Rules.
     
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  3. Ron

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    I'm copying this to our Golf section here. I'm sure Red or someone there will know the answer.
     
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  4. shortrun

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    thanks ron
     
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  5. Smokin Beau

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  6. TC (Lovely Geezer)

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    £52.50 works out a quarter the odds @ 35/1 mate - if they paid out on 8 instead of 6 they should have paid out @ 49.5/1 - I would query that return <ok>
     
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    OR
    £5 divided by 8 times 6 = £3.75 @ 16.5/1 = £65.63

    Either calculation - they have short changed you <ok>
     
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  8. YouCanCallMeJeff

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    I thought it was dead heat rules ie. 2 places shared between 5... 2/5 place stake on at quarter the odds of 66/1 but that would return less than you've got there so I've no idea I'm afraid...
     
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  9. TETBURY MASSIVE

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    Golf Bet.jpg

    Think it should be something along these lines
     
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  10. TC (Lovely Geezer)

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    They were paying top 6 mate - so the d/h rules would be 2/6 place stake = £3.75 x 16.5/1 = £65.62
     
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  11. Smokin Beau

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    I'm at work at the moment but i'll get on will hil's live chat tonight and query my return

    i presumed i would get just over £29, as the intial return was £87.50, and then i'd of thought they divided it by 3 as there was an extra 2 places than they offered. But i dont know for sure
     
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  12. SaveTheHumans

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    You should get £105 shortrun for that return on Bradley ok.

    Here's the leaderbaord
    1.Kaymer -10
    2.Fowler -1
    2.Compton -1
    4.Bradley +1
    4.Day +1
    4.Koepka +1
    4.Johnson +1
    4.Stenson +1

    We have a clear winner and a 2nd and 3rd spot full with Fowler and Compton, even though they tie 2nd they fill 2nd and 3rd, we only need to fill 6 places as that's all bookmakers are paying. Now we only have 3 places to allow payment for and 5 player's all tied so we divide 5 (no.of player's) by your 10 pound each way stake (10 lost on win part) which gives us £2. Now as stated we need to fill ONLY 3 places so we multiply the £2 by the 3 places we need to fill which gives us 6. You took 66/1 on Bradley and each way that gives us 16.5/1 at 1/4 the odds, so then multiply 16.5 * 6 + 6 = £105.

    Hope this explains well enough.
     
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  13. robbie

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    But doesn't dead heat rules half the stake which would be 52.50 which is what smokin beau got in post 5?
     
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  14. Smokin Beau

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    No Robbie as i only had £5 e/w

    STH's post makes perfect sense , cheers pal
     
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  15. robbie

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    Ahh missed that bit.
     
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  16. Smokin Beau

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    No worries Robbie
     
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  17. SaveTheHumans

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    The deductions take place in the stake relevant to the number of player's tied Robbie, as you see the original posters stake went from £10 to £2 by having 5 player's tied, then it just got multiplied by the 3 places that need to be filled and multiplied again by the odds taken on the player, which in this case was 66/1 / 4 = 16.5.

    In Smokins' case it is £5 divided by 5 (the no. of player's tied) which is 1 and then with 3 places needing filling we multiply the 1 by 3 which obviously gives us 3 and then this get's multiplied by the 16.5/1 ( quarter off 66/1) which totals at £52.50.
     
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  18. Ron

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    Ah I see. So

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    And here is the calculator
     
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  19. niksboy

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    No wiser but I really enjoyed and admire all of the effort that people put in here. Very informative.
     
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