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Hull City accounts 2016-2017

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by petersaxton, Oct 18, 2017.

  1. dennisboothstash

    dennisboothstash Well-Known Member

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    You can't just start asking questions without quoting random lists of numbers and your seemingly unrelated assessment of what the numbers mean! Amateur
     
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  2. ImperialTiger

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    SMC Profit and loss

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  3. ImperialTiger

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    SMC Balance sheet

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  4. ImperialTiger

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    SMC Debtors and creditors, showing money owed to HCAFC.

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  5. Doug

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    Its fair to say then, whatever the attendance is announced as at games this season, just knock approx 2,500 off?
     
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  6. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

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    Anyone else start nodding off reading this thread?

    Sorry Imp
     
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  7. ImperialTiger

    ImperialTiger Well-Known Member

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    Just putting it on here so people can see it. If those of us who've had to look at these things a lot (although nearly a decade for me professionally now) can answer any questions on them, let us know.
     
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  8. originallambrettaman

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    Remember when you recently asked me for my working out?

    Consider this it.
     
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  9. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

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    Thanks.
    So are we in rude health and debt free and they're hiding it?
     
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  10. ImperialTiger

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    Well. At the end of June, the Allams were owed £60m and the bank £21m. We had £20m in the bank. The accounts state that the directors reckon wages should be down 40% this year (let's say £60m down to £36m). Parachute payment should cover that and net transfer spend should make a big dent into the £60m owed to Allamhouse.

    The club is owed £13.1m by SMC (which has no way to pay - net liabilities of £10m).

    I'd say that after next year's parachute payment, the club should be in decent financial health. Then it needs to attract the punters back to get some money in.

    I have no idea what the "other matchday income" of £8m is. Was only £2m in the championship season of 2015-16.
     
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    They were always going to achieve that
     
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  12. Obadiah

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    Our trade debtors have gone up £11 million in a year. What have we sold that was worth that much money?

    Selling players appears to be dealt with under trade debtors arising from player transfers.
     
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  13. Obadiah

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    I'm not so sure about our financial health or how much the Allams will be able to take out of the club.

    We owe other clubs £14.9 million for players (this may be payable over 2 or 3 more years). Depending on appearances made by players we sold we might have to pay out another £3.1 million). These monies have to come from this season's income.

    If Ehab is right we have spent £16 million on new players from the £50 million received from player sales. Leaving a balance of £34 million. Not all that will be available this season unless he's sold cheap to get more cash up front.

    Our costs are likely to be:

    Players wages £36m
    Interest to Allamhouse £2.4m
    Other wages £6m
    SMC rent £3.5m
    Loans to the SMC £2m
    Total £49.9m

    If these figures are accurate we will would need to substantially reduce our expenditure next season if we don't get promoted.
     
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  14. ImperialTiger

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    Snodgrass, Diame and Maguire seem to be the only players sold in the period. I think that £6m is receivable in more than 1 year but I'm not up to date with Uk Gaap. Pretty sure only liabilities needed to be split into less than a year, 2-5 and >5 years.
     
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  15. ImperialTiger

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    Are we the first club in history to have a lower net book value for our playing squad after a premier league season than before it?
     
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    Ffs right before a big game.

    ****s.
     
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    Last sentence made me giggle.
     

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    Is it Friday already????
     
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    I thought it was only the Americans that didn't get sarcasm.
     
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