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  1. southerntiger

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    Twaddles has pegged it hasnt he?


    Hull flagship alternative and gay haven Silhouette club immortalised in new book
    The book will take anecdotes from former regulars and photos to tell the real story of Hull's former alternative club
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    Author Andy Roe and Karen Willey (Image: Andy Roe)
    A book dedicated to the famed Silhouette Club in Spring Bank will soon be available to buy.

    Despite its closure in 1990, Silhouette's importance as a safe haven for alternatives and one of the first gay clubs in the city still resonates today. Written by Hull-born Andy Roe, it features tales from former regulars he began to compile back in 2021.

    Now the book is almost ready to take to the printers. Starting out as a gambling club in the 1960s and later a Mod meeting place, The Silhouette Club evolved into a favoured watering hole for all things alternative, grunge, and gay.

    Read more: From Luftwaffe to cost of living crisis: Hull's Adelphi club geared for survival

    Andy previously wrote Spiders - Tales from Behind the Web in 2017, an exploration of the cultural importance of Spiders nightclub. There is a resemblance to Andy's current project - but with key differences between the two institutions.

    "This will be different from Tales from behind the web in that Silhouette shut in 1990, a long time ago, whereas Spiders is still open. I wanted to create this because when it was around Spring Bank, people from Spiders would visit Silhouette and people from Silhouette would go to Spiders. Quite often.

    "They both attracted people on the fringes; alternatives like punks, goths, and new romantics. These were sanctuaries, but Silhouette in particular because it was primarily a gay club. it was one of just a few places where gay people could go and feel safe. It was in fact the first place I'd ever met a gay person. You only ever saw caricatures and stereotypes of homosexuality on the telly, The Village People being one."

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    The club was well-loved by New Romantics, Punks and Goths. (Image: Andy Roe/Gary Rose)
    "Silhouette was a great example of if you create an environment for like-minded people, all these creative people, you will achieve great things."

    After initially getting the feelers out for case studies in the book over two years ago, due to a lack of interest the plan was put on the back burner. However, inspiration returned after Andy read through local photographer Alec Gill's latest book Hessle Road Photo Archive.

    Once again, Andy put the call out on social media for personal stories and photos for regulars, with roaring success. People were quick to share their personal history with the club, and scramble in the loft to find old photographs to submit.

    "I've heard some incredible human stories. The insight into what the gay community had to go through. Having to be 21 to have relations, having to give false names for fear of being arrested," Andy said.

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    Incredibly, the former owner of the Sillhouette was successfully tracked down. With the help of social media and the club's lifelong fans, owner Ray was found. "When I return up to Hull, we're going to meet up and he has a sack full of photos ready for me, god knows what I am going to unearth!"

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    The Silhouette was one of the first gay bars in the city(Image: Andy Roe)
    Even though The Sillhouette Club has been gone for more than 30 years, Andy feels like many more people will enjoy the stories that went on in the club than just the regulars.

    "I want to make it relevant to younger people. Those now who go to Welly club, Spiders and Polar Bear, I want them to know about the camaraderie and how it never changes throughout the ages, and hopefully, it will inspire them."

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    @AndyRoe140 on Twitter. Andy says that the deadline for this will be on May 31.
     
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    Which building on SB was that?
     
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    Just before the Chinese food store I think but happy to be corrected
     
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    Drone images reveal how some coastal homes have as little as five months before they crash into sea
    By Mark Branagan 15:09, 19 Mar 2023 , updated 15:55, 19 Mar 2023

    The clock is ticking for residents living on along Britain's crumbling cliffs - with some homeonwers looking at less than six months before their homes crash into the sea.

    Owners of doomed homes in erosion hotspots fear they have been abandoned by the Government with coastal defence measures restricted to more populated areas.

    In Withernsea, Martin Overton and 50 of his neighbours, say their properties have only been spared because they live near a key road to the gas terminal at Easington.

    Mr Overton, 69, a retired buyer of mining and tunnelling equipment, used a tape measure to demonstrate to a MailOnline reporter how the gap between the cliffedge and the homes of nearby residents has shrunk to just 90cm.

    Mr Overton had lived in the seaside town for 16 years when he moved to his current address four years ago.

    The plight of residents living along this endangered stretch of the East Riding coast are among the thousands .

    Cornwall, Cumbria, Dorset and are other at-risk areas, where the unrelenting force of mother nature is chipping away at the land upon which their homes stand. But for how much longer?

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    Less than three feet to oblivion: Some of the homes along the Withernsea coast are perilously close to the cliffedge after many years of erosion.
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    Martin Overton demonstrates how bad coastal erosion has affected homes along the coast in Withernsea. The retired retired buyer of mining and tunnelling equipment reveals there is just 90cm - less than three feet - between some properties and the cliff edge
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    Mobile homes long the coast in Withernsea, East Yorkshire have as little as 90cm between them and the edge of the cliff.
    He was then devastated to learn that his new home was predicted to be at the bottom of the 50ft cliffs in five years.

    He watched in horror as the cliffs began to crumble. He told Mail on Line: “The sea just whips in. When you get a high spring tide it tears it to pieces.

    “When I saw my garden was 80 meters from the edge I thought it was the end. A lot of people down my street could not sell their houses.

    “No one could get a mortgage because of the erosion so people just rented them out and hoped for the best.

    “I used to walk my dog down the beach and it was a regular thing to see the chalet falling off the cliff into the sea.

    “One house had to be physically moved about 100 meters from the edge of the cliff to the edge of the road. But it is hanging off the cliff again now.

    “Since I have been living here I have seen the chip shop go, a whole night club on the holiday camp next door go, and then everything on that side of the road.”

    COASTAL EROSION: THE AREAS MOST AT RISK BY 2040
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    Then at the 11th hour, the home owners received the joyful news that £5.5 million had become available for defences from the European Regional Development Fund.

    The rock armour saved hundreds of chalets, homes in Newsham Gardens, a cul de sac to the west of Holmpton Road and “stopped the erosion dead” according to Mr Overton.

    But he and other residents are convinced it was not their plight that led to the life line.

    Mr Overton explained: “The road is the main access to the gas terminal at Easington where one third of the UK’s gas came in - so they could not lose the road.”

    Residents just a few miles at Tunstall have not been so fortunate. Houses in Seaside Lane leading form the village to the sea have been lost.

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    Six months left? With the coastal erosion rate of 223ft every 20 years, estimates would suggest these properties have less than six months before the ground beneath them gives way.
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    Denise Crosland from Hornsea who's home is now close to the edge of the cliff. She says the erosion is actually worse in the summer, when the cliffs dry out
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    The Hornsea mobile homes facing oblivion: Erosion is ripped more than 200ft away from the coast over 20 years
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    Not long left: Hornsea properties have a stunning sea view, but it has been getting a little too close for comfort with every passing year
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    Tracie Brame from Hornsea who's home is now incredibly close to the edge of the cliff.
    Also under threat is the neighbouring 126 acre Sand Le Mere Holiday Village as the embankment which protects the low lying land behind from the North Sea is steadily worn down.

    Recently Maureen Dunn became the latest Seaside Lane resident to be evacuated as the erosion advanced within 11m of her brick cottage.

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    She has now moved into a wooden bungalow in a nearby meadow next to another one occupied by her son Derek.

    Derek Dunn, 63, has been living there since the three bedroom brick bungalow he and has late wife had occupied for 15 years disappeared into the sea three years ago.

    That property is now derelict and will soon become a casualty of the local council’s policy of demolishing properties before they fall down the cliff.

    Maureen’s home next door has now also been condemned and she is the process of transferring the last of her belongings to the new static-caravan style home.

    Maureen, who was widowed three years ago, said: “It is sad to think had a whole field between us and cliff when we first moved in there. We thought we would stay there all our lives,

    “But it was all down to the weather and coastal erosion. We saw yards of land go when the Beast from the East arrived.

    Motor engineer Keith Naylor, 72, chatted to Mail on Line while standing on all that was left of the road that once ran all the way along the cliffs.

    He said: “I said last summer we felt abandoned and nowt has got any better since. The cliffs have continued to crumble away and we have lost a few more feet.

    “But there is still no sign of the authorities doing anything about it. They come down and measure now and then but never knock on the door to tell us what’s going on.

    “My next door neighbour Maureen is between here and her new chalet since moving out and her home will be demolished eventually.

    “Since I came here in 1999 I have seen the caravan site toilet block go, then the fish and chip shop, the shop, the cafe, the office and then these bungalows.

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    Keith Naylor from Tunstall who's home (far left) is now close to the edge of the cliff. The red brick house has already been condemned. It is now just 30ft from the edge, and could crash into the sea in three years.
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    Maureen Dunn from Tunstall who's home is now close to the edge of the cliff so she has moved into a mobile home in a field nearby
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    Maureen Dunn's Tunstall home has been condemned, forcing her to move into a mobile home nearby.
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    Keith Naylor from Tunstall. He said: 'Last summer we felt abandoned and nowt has got any better since. The cliffs have continued to crumble away and we have lost a few more feet.'
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    The broken road near Keith Naylor's Tunstall home. The sea has claimed some 200ft of the land over the last 20 years
    “That’s half a dozen buildings at least. They knock them down now before they fall off. A bit comes off the edge of the cliff every week.

    “But I do not look that often because what can I do about it?” He does not believe his house will go in his lifetime but is taking no chances and has already purchased some land.

    In Hornsea, many static homes on the Longbeach Leisure Park are on the very brink of the cliffs with preparations underway to uproot another line of properties and move them further back.

    Although many are second homes, the owners have sunk up to £90 into the newel models and many only have their pensions to fall back on.

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    One owner, Denise Crosland, 67, a retired hospital ward assistant, said: “Strangely enough, some say the erosion is even worse in the summer because the cliffs dry out and cracks appear.

    because the cliffs dry out and cracks appear.

    “Someone drives past every day in a golf buggy to check how back it is. Half a dozen of the homes are being move soon.

    “They have had to move the ‘Dangerous Cliffs’ sign three times in the last two years.

    “I have been coming here since I was seven and the cliffs had roads which stretched out along the cliffs. There is only the sea there now.”

    Another home owner Tracie Brame, 62, a retired civil servant, said: “Our caravan is about 200 yards from the edge but it is still worrying

    “You only have to take the dog for a walk and you can see the cliffs coming down. It would be nice if something could be done because it is getting horrendous - but it’s the cost.

    “You only have to look at places like Norfolk to see it is happening on the coast everywhere. But the big towns always take priority when it comes to defences.”

    In Filey, many of the threatened properties are in an area called Flat Cliffs, near the ionic White House, the former home of Sir Billy Butlin and famed for the holiday camp boss’s lavish parties.

    The White House is now let as a holiday home and although it overlooks the beach and cliffs the present owners have made clear it is not at risk.

    Retired chocolate tractors worker Chris Ogden, 76, has witnessed the destruction over the years.

    He said: “It has been more than bad.

    “You only have to go out for a walk to see the cliffs crumbling away all the way from Filey down to Withernsea.

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    Chris Ogden from Filey who's holiday home is now close to the edge of the cliff. The cliff have eroded some 131ft in 20 years
    “A lot of the cottages around here are starting to look a bit iffy and they are pile driving some of them at the back to protect them. But they can’t stop it.

    “The Government are not bothered about us. If it was Buckingham Palace about to fall into the sea they would do something.”

    Emergency measures to protect the 40 properties at Flat Cliffs was completed in 2019 involving draining the waterlogged cliff and propping it up with sandbags.

    Martin Overton reckons the current authorities could learn a lot from the Victorians. He said: “They built the lighthouse a quarter of a mile inland because they were worried about erosion.

    “There used to be a church half a mile out to see. That’s how much has gone. The rock armour has stopped it dead here but it will just the problem somewhere else.”

    “We threatened to throw the environment minister off the cliff unless the money came through for the rock armour after 10 years of trying. But it was only because of the gas terminal we got it.”
     
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    Didn't he learn anything in his time in the geology business?

    They've been crumbling for more than hundred's of years, and before that they were under the sea, after being under ice, a swamp or a forest so they've probably been on uninhabitable land for most of their existence.

    I recall someone being interviewed a while back, and they made the point that coastlines and landscapes have always changed, but for some reason people have decided that it should remain as it is today, which is less than a fleeting moment in the geological timescales that created them.
     
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    Bought it 4 years ago? Tit.

    It’s not as if it’s new news.

    Would you buy a petrol car the day before they stopped selling petrol?

    Tit.
     
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    One of the few things I remember from long ago school days, coastal erosion and deposition. Even went on school trips to mapleton and spurn point. King Canute tried and failed.
     
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    Was that with that dodgy teacher?
     
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    Don't remember any dodgy teachers.

    I do remember a trip looking at different housing and settlement types. In Bishop Burton some of the residents objected to a load of council estate kids and their teachers in their village. Allegedly as pay back a couple of teachers went back and started knocking marker pegs into a few lawns and gardens, when challenged they said they were surveying for the route of the planned Beverley bypass. (At that time everyone knew there was to be a bypass but not exactly where) the council office phone was ringing red hot for days.
     
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    I’m no expert, but surely the mobile homes could be…well you know…moved?!

    mind you what the hell does this mean by the way? “ the owners have sunk up to £90 into the newel models” Presumably ‘newer models’ but even there I assume they’re more than £90!!!
     
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    True .
    I went to Kiknsea caravan site last summer .
    We used to have a Caravan there in the 70s/80s
    It was a long way from the beach and the night club was even further .
    The night club was knocked down before it fell in the sea 3 years ago .
    The have built another club less than 50 yards from the edge that looks a good million pounds worth .
    It's baffling .
     
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    That article has so many errors and typo's it makes my head hurt! I would think it should read £90,000.

    "There used to be a church half a mile out to see."

    Presumably you now can't see it for sea.

    "The retired retired buyer of mining and tunnelling equipment"

    So good he retired twice!

    "Retired chocolate tractors worker Chris Ogden"

    Did he drive chocolate tractors or make them out of chocolate?
     
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    Yes,Quite.

    I would've imagined the attached wheels and tow-bar would've facilitated a retreat...
     
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    Was my first thought too. Instead of wittering to the press find yourself a compamny that can shift it and move the frigging thing a mile in-land.
     
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    Appreciate the sentiment but I'm sure you can't just plonk a mobile home down anywhere you like, the owners of the land might have something to say about that. That's before the issue of service provision comes into it...
     
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