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  1. Uber_Hoop

    Uber_Hoop Well-Known Member

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    There's eleven Godfrey's on the pitch having tea and cake with Dolly.
     
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  2. Jimbo ranger

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    we were very lucky to get 3 points against Ipswich , look at our record Pryor .... Piss poor
     
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  3. West WindsR

    West WindsR Well-Known Member

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    Well we were better than Ipswich on the day, so no, we weren't lucky.
     
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  4. Jimbo ranger

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    keep blowing smoke up faulin and jfh Arse .

    We have been **** since he's taken over . Fact

    What the **** was that set up today ? Incompetent
     
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  5. Ninj

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    I often wonder whether changing manager mid-way through a season is sensible. After all, he will still basically have the same players to use. OK so we have a transfer window in January, but can you really get the players in or out you during that time? We would probably continue to struggle with CR at the helm, however moving goalposts did not help.
    Whatever happens, we are "stuck" with JFH so we are best to get behind him and the team. We have had shocking results against Fulham for some time and I would have thought that making the player watch the recent games would be enough to fuel some passion and fighting spirit.
    I haven't seen the game, or even heard commentary on radio so I may be partly speaking from my rear - however Fulham with 1 win in 15 until today should have been there for the taking or is it just same old Rangers, losing to side on losing streak, or the striker that hasn't scored in 50 odd games suddenly hitting the net against us (aka John Jansen Arsenal who broke his duck against us having never scored in 200 odd games!!)
     
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  6. Dens Hoops

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    This, no leaders on the pitch and no leaders off the pitch
     
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  7. rangercol

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    It's all very well people saying that the formation made no difference and it was all down to the players, but I'm sorry, that's just plain wrong.
    Re-arrange the starting 11 to this and at least Fulham wouldn't have been strolling around, playing like Barca, with the whole of ****ing West London to play in:
    --------------------------------------Smithies-----------------------------------
    Perch----------------Onuoha-----------------Hall--------------Konchesky
    ---------------------------Luongo------------Tosser---------------------------
    Phillips-----------------------------Hoilett------------------------------Mackie
    ----------------------------------Polter-------------------------------------------

    As soon as JFH had watched 10 minutes, he should have changed to this, to at least match them for numbers in midfield.
    It's nothing like the team I'd pick from the off though. Then again, I wouldn't have got rid of Harriman and Doughty.

    The manager looked totally clueless today.
     
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  8. TWGWTDT

    TWGWTDT Well-Known Member

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    He doesn't just try his game off the ball is very good He knows his craft and does his job most times IMO
    He is not dynamic but today was a lesson to our club what happens if you do t have that player
    Faurlin is total class but his body is letting him down
     
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  9. UTRs

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    Agreed, very often and for far too long we often see unmotivated, disinterested and clueless performances from our squad. I would have said team but I'm not sure that's the case right now.
     
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  10. qprbeth

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    So you ask
    Phillips was playing midfield helping out when he completely bottled out of a tackle allowing Fulham to score their second.
    The players on the pitch were incapable of playing your formation....well Phillips and Hoillett were.
    The fault was not recognising this at 30 minutes and putting on Henry....and pulling off Phillips...but I bet I can imagine what would have been said if he did that.

    Truth of the matter is Ale is indispensable...and we have no decent midfielders.

    Fulham have the best attacking force in the division in Dembele and McCormick, I think they have scored more goals than nearly any other team...they were always going to score....but our team never looked like scoring.
    Today was the day to play Henry.....
     
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  11. rangercol

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    But you said earlier that it wasn't JFH's fault. It clearly was, as he picked a God-awful line up and then failed to react when it was clear to everyone that we were getting slaughtered in the midfield.
    The players were to blame too no doubt. Hall was asleep for their first and Onuoha lost his man for the second. But they wouldn't have faced such an onslaught if the coach had changed things after 20 minutes, like he should have done.

    I wouldn't have started with the side I posted. I was simply pointing out that JFH could have switched to that formation to at least limit Fulham's grip on the game. The next step would indeed have been to bring on Henry and form a three man central midfield.
    JFh looks all at sea Beth.
     
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  12. West WindsR

    West WindsR Well-Known Member

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    It's not fact though as we were better than Ipswich when you said we were lucky to beat them.

    I'm a Faurlin fan and you aren't. All I'll say is we seem to have more chance of winning a game when he plays than when he doesn't. Either he's a wizard or a better footballer than his competition.
     
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  13. qprbeth

    qprbeth Wicked Witch of West12
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    It wasn't JFH finest hour Col, but I am pretty sure by the time of the second goal we were suppose to be playing 4 in midfield. JFH was badly let down by his players .

    It was a naive team choice to start with...thinking Toszer and Luongo could play like Ale and Luongo did last week.....I accept that..
    But the team crumbled...Phillips bottled tackles, Hall had is worse game for us....the backs were inept..
    Polter did nothing...and please do not even ask about the farce that went on when we took corners.

    It was a very very bad day at the office...
    But I do think we have to stick with JFH...because I suspect that he is more sick than even we are
     
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  14. Frome-Ranger

    Frome-Ranger Well-Known Member

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    Agreed Beth. Real test will be next week to see what reaction JFH is able to get out the players. Really wish we'd managed to off-load Phillips, his total lack of effort really annoys me.
     
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  15. rangercol

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    With respect Beth, you're missing the point somewhat.
    We always had 4 in midfield, as it was 4-4-2. The trouble was, that formation contained Phillips and Hoilett, neither of which like to defend with conviction and Luongo, who tends to get further forward in the centre. This against a side with 5 in midfield, which often became 6 when one of their forwards dropped in. JFH didn't change anything in the first half by which time we were 3-0 down.

    Clueless!
     
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    I thought the tackling was so poor, more like twinkle toes, bottled out at times especially 2/3rd goals, couldn't trap or control all afternoon, hold your hands up to Fulham, passing & movement good.
     
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  17. qprted

    qprted Poet Laureate

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    OK ILL POST SOMETHING THAT MAYBE ONLY THE TACTICAL AWARE OF YOU WILL UNDERSTAND
    YOU CANT PLAY TWO MIDFIELD PLAYERS AGAINST FULHAMS FOUR OR YOU WILL GET OVER RUN IN MIDFIELD
    WHAT EVER WERE YOU THINKING JIMMY FLOYDE YOU THREW THE GAME AWAY
    DO NOT BE SO RIDICULOUS AGAIN THIS IS A HARD LEAGUE
    KNOWBODY BUT KNOWBODY PLAYS TWO MIDFIELD PLAYERS
    AND WHAT EVER STYLE THE OPPOSITION PLAYS YOU MUST MATCH WITH THE SAME STYLE
    we must forget this defeat put it behind us and totally destroy the next team
     
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  18. Sooperhoop

    Sooperhoop Well-Known Member

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    My God, you're soooooo tactically astute Ted, we'll have to call you Einstein from now on...
     
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  19. qprted

    qprted Poet Laureate

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    that cheered me up superdooperhoop we need a bit of humour after that display
     
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  20. Uber_Hoop

    Uber_Hoop Well-Known Member

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    'KNOWBODY' SHOULD EVER ACCUSE TED OF BEING ANYTHING BUT AN EINSTEIN.
     
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