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Match Day Thread Lesta vs United Boxing Day Cracker

Discussion in 'Manchester United' started by Treble, Dec 26, 2020.

  1. cytrax

    cytrax Well-Known Member

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    We should really have gone out to destroy them few weeks ago. But then again, another side that we showed too much respect.
     
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    May be they were better then and now on the slide. And United are now better than they were at the beginning of the season. Are the current spurs (which destroyed us at OT) much better than we are now? Never compare results between different teams especially when they are separated by months ! :D
     
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  3. Treble

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    Both teams were utter garbage.

    There's nothing to fear from either of them for a long while.
     
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    Nope! The manager was doing a poor job getting results out a great team. That Arsenal squad should never beat United. Chelsea squad should have actually been easier to beat then because one could argue that they were still blending in new players. I’ll put the Tottenham loss as an off day with the red card amplifying it. They certainly are not six times better than us.

    Overall, all points back to the way the managers setup their teams to play tactically.
     
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    That is why I say that for some fans OGS can never win, win or lose. When he starts winning they declare that the squad was good all along and that previously the losses are proof that the manager didn’t use the resources wisely and got tactics wrong. So a winning run is not to the credit of the manager but the players showing that they were good all along despite the manager. Loses are down to poor management of course but wins have absolutely nothing to do with the manager.
     
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    I don't see this scenario where Solskjaer can "never win, win or lose". I think that you're painting an overly simplistic scenario there.

    Conversely, I would argue that most United supporters have got behind the manager in ways that we never got behind the last three predecessors.

    In football, managers become demigods when they win regardless of the quality of the team. And when the team tanks it consistently, manager takes the heat. This is not a new phenomenon. Even Sir Alex faced the same treatment over various rebuild cycles.

    This thing about OGS can never win is fallacy.
     
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    Not sure what to make of the Wolves game. Going to see how they do against Spurs tonight.
     
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    At home, two days after they play Spurs.

    I'd say it's got win all over it. Anything else not good enough, we've got to keep winning.
     
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    That's bloody positive for us tbf.

    I'm looking at the table and the game in hand at the moment doesn't really matter. We have City, Spurs, Everton, Leicester around us with about 2 points in it. And it'll be typical if we fall 6 or 7 behind Livpl after Wolves. We really have to win and are more than capable of doing so.
     
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    Not sure what the score is with Wan Bissaka but, assuming he's fit, the side I would go with is;

    De Gea
    AWB
    Tuanzebe
    Maguire
    Shaw
    Fred
    Pogba
    Fernandes
    Rashford
    Cavani
    Martial

    Subs; take your pick!!

    McTominay, van De Beek, Lindelof, Bailly, James, Henderson, Mata, Telles, Ighalo


    Not too shabby, we can pick two decent sides at the minute.
     
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    Very true... and that good you've given Greenwood a rest <laugh>
     
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    Knew I was forgetting someone!

    And Williams.

    Makes two very good 11's.
     
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    And TFM comes into it.
     
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    And no need for Lingard!
     
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    Be useful if the baggies hold out here, eh?
     
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    Nice draw for West Brom ,be handy now if Wolves can peg back the Spuds and knacker themselves out in the process.
     
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    Please God don't let us do what we usually do when we have a sniff at closing the gap at the top and fck it up in our next match. Pretty please!
     
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    Good result for wolves (and us)
     
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    They will have gained some belief from the late equaliser though.

    Lesson here, if we take the lead let's not try and defend a 1 goal lead for 90 mins <laugh>
     
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    Still can't help thinking that's what we did yesterday, in advance. Wrong way round of course but you get what I mean.

    We really should have won yesterday, and we can't do that again.
     
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