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Liverpool v Reading – Match Chat (20/10/2012)

Discussion in 'Reading' started by daib0, Oct 14, 2012.

  1. daib0

    daib0 Well-Known Member

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    Liverpool v Reading


    Saturday 20th October 2012 - Kick off 3.00 pm
    Anfield
    Premier League


    RFC AWAY - If you’re going and want to know more, see this great link about the stadium, travelling and food –
    http://www.footballgroundguide.com/liverpool


    The ground
    Address: Anfield Road, Liverpool, L4 0TH


    FORM GUIDE

    Table Positions:
    Liverpool 14th - 6 points (played 7 games)
    Reading 18th - 3 points (played 6 games)

    Liverpool Recent form:
    After a fine pre-season campaign (where the only defeat was to Ronma) and a successful Europa League qualifier H & A against Gomel (they won both ties), the subequent league form has surely been something of a let-down. A first day defeat 0-3 v West Brom was followed by a 2-2 v Man City, a home defeat to Arsenal (0-2), a 1-1 draw at Senderland, and another home defeat to Man Utd (1-2). They redeemed to WBA loss with an away win there in the League cup, and last match tore Norwich apart – also away – coming out 5-2 winners. Reading will be hoping that the poor home form will play a bearing in this match!

    Reading Recent form:
    We’ve been saying it for several games, but a bit jumpy for Reading, and we’re still a match behind the others due to the Sunderland postponement. The play is definitely improving, but the team is still without that first win in the league. That should have come against Newcastle at home, judging by the play, and also against Swansea last match if we’d have known how to hang on to a 2-0 lead!


    THE BOSS – the current manager of Liverpool:

    Brendan Rodgers (born 26 January 1973) is a Northern Irish former footballer who is the current manager of Premier League club Liverpool.
    Rodgers began his career as a defender at Ballymena United, where he stayed until he was signed by Reading at the age of 18, although injury forced him to retire at the age of 20. He remained at Reading as a coach before being invited by José Mourinho to join Chelsea as their youth team manager in 2004. He was then promoted to reserve team manager in 2006.
    In 2008 he was appointed manager of Watford, where he remained until accepting an offer to become manager of his former club Reading in 2009. He left the club by mutual consent after a series of disappointing results six months later, later returning to full-time management with Swansea City in 2010. He led the club to to win promotion to the Premier League, the first Welsh team ever to do so, before guiding them to finish 11th in their début Premier League season. On 1 June 2012, Rodgers accepted an offer to become the new manager of Liverpool.

    Rodgers at Reading:
    After Steve Coppell resigned as Reading manager, Rodgers quickly became the favourite to rejoin his old club. He initially distanced himself from the job, saying that his "concentration (is) fully on Watford", although he would later agree a deal to become the new manager of Reading on 5 June 2009 after a compensation package of an initial £500,000 had been agreed, which later rose to £1 million. The Watford Supporters' Trust stated that because of the move, Rodgers' reputation was "severely damaged" in the eyes of the supporters, but they nevertheless "thanked (Rodgers) for his efforts last season" and "(wished) him well for the future".
    On 11 August, Rodgers got his first win as Reading manager with a 5–1 win over League Two side Burton Albion in the first round of the League Cup. Despite a good start in the league, a very disappointing string of results followed, culminating in Rodgers leaving Reading by mutual consent on 16 December, just over six months after his arrival.


    Official Liverpool Club Web Site:
    http://www.liverpoolfc.tv
    Unofficial individual club web sites – daib0’s suggestions: Kopworld and LFC Talk forums


    Rivalries, and fan base:
    Everton, Manchester United and Arsenal ...
    Liverpool's longest-established rivalry is with fellow Merseyside team Everton, against whom the club contest the Merseyside derby. Their rivalry stems from Liverpool's formation and the dispute with Everton officials and the then owners of Anfield. Unlike other rivalries, there is no political, geographical or religious split between Liverpool and Everton. The Merseyside derby is usually sold out. Liverpool's rivalry with Manchester United is viewed as a manifestation of the cities' competition during the Industrial Revolution of the 19th century.
    Liverpool is one of the best supported clubs in the world, with one of the highest average home attendances in Europe. The club's worldwide fan base includes more than 200 officially recognized branches of the Association of International Branches (AIB) in at least 30 countries. The club takes advantage of this support through its worldwide summer tours. Liverpool fans often refer to themselves as Kopites, a reference to the fans who once stood, and now sit, on the Kop at Anfield.

    Famous Fans:
    A big selection of celebrities who support or have supported Liverpool in their free time –
    Jimmy Tarbuck – comedian, Ian Broudie – singer, Dr Dre – Rapper, Colin Murray - radio/TV Presenter, DJ Spoony - DJ, Mel C - Spice Girl, Craig Charles - comedian (Red Dwarf), Darren Clarke – golfer, Elvis Costello – musician,
    Daniel Craig – actor, Chris de Burgh – musician / songwriter, Michael Howard – politician, Johnny Ball - Zoe's Dad, Cilla Black - presenter (Blind Date), Paul Boardman - Sky Sports News, Stan Boardman - comedian, Kelly Dalglish - Sky Sports News, Laura Davies – golfer, Les Dennis - TV funny man, Kirsty Gallager - Sky, Rise, Mark Owen - Take That, Brian Regan - Fat Cat soccer am

    Nicknames
    There are three principally in usage ...
    Reds – obviously for colour of home kit
    Pool - Short version of name
    Kopites - indicates the KOP Grandstand in the famous Anfield Road ground
    “Crazy Red” has been used as the mascot of the club, but is now being superseded by ‘Mighty Red’ - http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/07/09/liverpool-fc-mascot-mighty-red_n_1658308.html


    MATCH DAY EXPECTATIONS

    Attendances:
    So far this season Liverpool sit 5th in the attendance charts, behind Man Utd, Arsenal, Newcastle and Man City. They have an average crowd of 44,712 from the three league games to date.

    Squads and Team News:
    Not available yet - please add any news in your posts and comments - one of the most important things to add here before kick-off!


    SCORE PREDICTIONS

    My own verdict:
    I’m sticking my neck out, just out of blind loyalty – Liverpool 0 Reading 1

    What do others say?
    The Oddschecker site, listing nearly all the major betting companies, shows the highest odds against Reading that I can remember in recent seasons – Liverpool are 4/11, but Reading weigh in between 9/1 and 10/1 for a win! Even the possibility of a draw is over 4/1 according to the Bookies ...


    FOR THE RECORD

    Last Encounter
    13th January 2010
    FA Cup 3rd Round replay
    Liverpool 1 Reading 2 (a.e.t.)
    An extra-time goal from Shane Long capped a stunning comeback from Championship strugglers Reading as they knocked Liverpool out of the FA Cup. Liverpool fortuitously took the lead when Ryan Bertrand deflected Steven Gerrard's cross into his own net. In second-half injury time Reading were rewarded for their endeavour throughout when Gylfi Sigurdsson levelled from the spot after a foul on substitute Long. Long's extra-time header proved the decisive blow to send Reading through. This was Reading's first victory at Anfield and it was fully deserved as they out-worked their under-par Premier League opponents to book a fourth-round tie at home to Burnley.


    Head-to-head Reading and Liverpool

    Played in total 8 times: 2 Reading wins / 5 Liverpool wins / 1 draw

    Best Reading victory: December 2007 – Reading 3 Liverpool 1

    Best Liverpool victory: Sept 2007 – Reading 2 Liverpool 4 (League Cup)

    Also interesting: Oct 2006 – Liverpool 4 Reading 3 (League Cup)


    THIS DATE in history

    Reading have a middle record on this day: W10 D3 L9, though the distant older years were better than the last few decades on the whole. Best victory was v Burnley (H) 5-1 in 1984, and the most recent was a 4-1 loss to QPR in 2009 which left us one place above the relegation zone of the championship.

    Liverpool? An average W6 D6 L6 of their 18, with plenty of goals going back historically but much less in recent times, though they whipped Leicester away 4-1 in 2001. Last time was a 2-1 loss to Lyon in the Champions League in 2009 (match report here: http://www.lfconline.com/rprt/mtch/liverpool_1_lyon_2_468906/index.shtml )

    For those who’d like to read a really detailed match presentation please pop over to the specialist Reading FC forum ‘Royals Rendezvous’ where you have even more sections covered (this present article is simply a resume) and many a photo up too … http://royalsrendezvous.co.uk/topic/9734486/1



    Here’s to a good game, all comments welcome! Any snippet copied will be fully credited (and thanked) with your user name and the forum! ...



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  2. Cantbearsedwithnot606now

    Cantbearsedwithnot606now Active Member

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    Comprehensive post mate, I like it. Best one I've seen on another board. Us reds are spoiled by Chris, he's a bit of a legend.

    I think you'll give us a good game, but in confident this will be our first home win of the season.
     
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  3. Chris.

    Chris. #bringbackchris

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    Afternoon, Liverpool fan here.

    Cheers for the thread! Was a good read and I shall pop onto your thread on royalsrendezvous and put some more in-depth views on there in the coming days.

    The bookmakers seem to have us as rather strong favourites (As you've already pointed out!) but I think it'll be closer than the bookies are making it out to be.

    Our main problem this season has been scoring goals. A rather poor end to the summer transfer window meant that we were left with two senior strikers and some younger strikers from the reserves.

    One of those senior strikers (Fabio Borini) is now injured so we have one senior striker in Luis Suarez. That's our big problem. If he doesn't play well, our goalscoring options become worrying low. Add to that the defence making quite a few mistakes thus far and that sums up our indifferent start to the season.

    I think we'll win in Saturday (I would think that! :p) but it'll be close. Reading seem to gettting closer to that first win and you clearly have Premier League players in your side.

    The likes of Pavel Pogrebnyak & Danny Guthrie have proven for Fulham & Newcastle that they can perform in the Premier League.

    I'll go with a 1-0 home victory. Tight game but I think we'll come out on top in the end.

    <cheers>
     
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  4. Chris.

    Chris. #bringbackchris

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    <smooch>

    Cheers campbell!
     
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  5. daib0

    daib0 Well-Known Member

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    Thanks a lot guys, I'm not sure what to expect really, you know, promotion hit us a bit unexpectedly - at least if you had looked at the Championship placings before Christmas last season! But I'm realistic to know that the Premier is the opposite to a charity, and a poor start here might mean that a team never recovers all season. It's true we have a game in hand, but points are poorer than I had been let to believe, so there will be no option but at least to try for the win - even if we fail miserably.
    Good to hear your opinions, as the Reading 606 Board is very thin on the ground unfortunately - virtually all the core posters from the old BBC 606 went over to Royals Rendezvous, although a few of us do the two - still, at least that means that RR posters are well used to conversing agreeably with other fans!
     
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  6. Red Hadron Collider

    Red Hadron Collider The Hammerhead

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    Good post mate. I'm gagging for the match after the international sh1t <ok> I've also managed to secure a ticket on the Kop. Feeling quietly confident. I think we'll win by a two goal margin. Let's hope it's an enjoyable game without controversy and all you away fans have a top day out <ok>
     
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    3-1 to us hopefully.
     
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    daib0 Well-Known Member

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    A huge challenge to go to Anfield<cool>, esp for a side fresh to the Premier League and looking for a first League win for the season<whistle>. But I believe the Royals will make a good match of it and that the team is quite able to pull off an unexpected win. Our last visit to Anfield went well, but it's quite the different event this time. It looks to be a good day for the match - we've already lost one match to weather!

    A good match and safe travels to all involved, from a Royals fan across the pond.:emoticon-0148-yes:
     
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  10. daib0

    daib0 Well-Known Member

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    good to see you Owlish
     
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    luvgonzo Pisshead

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    Make sure you come over to our match thread on the weekend fellas. <ok>
     
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    Will do, thanks. And I always say to our members "no whinging if we lose, no gloating if we win" !
     
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    Liverpool’s Brendan Rodgers: I’ll always be grateful to Reading
    http://www.thesportreview.com/tsr/2012/10/liverpool-brendan-rodgers-reading

    Brendan Rodgers has admitted he will “always be grateful” to Reading ahead of Liverpool’s clash against the Royals at Anfield on Saturday.
    Rodgers, who was appointed as Kenny Dalglish’s successor in May, spent two years at Reading as a player in the early 1990s before taking charge of the club in June 2009.

    The 39-year-old lasted just over six months at the Royals before leaving by mutual consent in December, with the Northern Irishman going on to guide Swansea City into the Premier League in 2011.

    “They’re a fantastic club and I’ll always be grateful for Reading,” said Rodgers. “They played a massive part in my life. I moved there when I was 16 years of age, my kids were born there and I lived in the town for nearly 20 years. It [spell at Reading] had probably been my only bad experience in football since becoming a coach and a manager. But I don’t really see it as a bad experience – it was a great learning experience for me. I learnt many things in that six months that allowed me to go on and hopefully carve out a career for many years in the game. Brian [McDermott] came in and done exceptionally well. He’s got them promoted and they were outstanding particularly in the second half of last season to go on and win the league. When you come up, it is very, very difficult. You come up against better quality players who can really hurt you, but I’m sure they’ll do very, very well. They’re a wonderful club.”
     
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