Mags embarrassing themselves yet again

https://www.not606.com/threads/the-2022-world-cup-discussion-thread.403620/page-23#post-16331347

 

also , more PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASES

 

I did think about adding I'll be a good boy for Xmas but that might be pushing it!

 

Not at all. , let’s all be good ( well good ish )

 

It’s highly likely as they can’t have a conflict of interests

 

What would they do with all the tea towels?

 

I know a fella looking to acquire a football club. Runs Sports Direct, so he's got a few bob.

 

A Roundhead Army based itself at Garrison Field (not far from the old Vaux site) during The Civil War and while the main body was surrounding Newcastle who had declared for Charles .

I have no idea whether this indicated support for the Parliamentary Forces or not, but I do wonder how the occupants of Sunderland at that time could have opposed them.
And it was the Marquis of Newcastle who supported the King.
What the locals felt about it all is not recorded.

The origin of the term 'Geordies' is rather blurred.
I prefer the one that claims that it was taken up from the NORTH EAST Miners who refused to use Sir Humphry Davy's safety lamp, preferring instead to use a lamp invented by one of their own Engineers called Geordie Stephenson.
Stephenson was, at that time an unknown whereas Sir Humphry was The Darling of The Royal Society.

As for the term Makem,I first heard this about twenty five years ago, and in South Shields.

It recall an article in The Echo, some years ago, that tried to trace the origins.
The earliest they could pin down the word, but nor the context, was it being mentioned in an an Ashbrook Club article in the mid seventies.
The 'Makem and Tack-em' definition is claimed to have started at Doxfords with their SD14 Engines being installed in Newcastle built ships. But I have no idea if this is true (that means I cannot prove it either way).
One former employee of Sunderland Forge I know, claims it came from there,

It seems that those who have grown up with this local antagonism believe that it is centuries old, while those of us that only experienced this in recent years, don't.

I can however state with absolute certainty, that had you served in the RAF in the sixties, and hailed from Sunderland, you would have been referred to by most of you fellow Servicemen, at some time or other as 'Geordie'.
And you would not have been offended.

 

Loads of England supporters vox-popped on the news channels.

All with England shirts and not talking about their club affiliations ...

... except the last three Mags I've seen, all with B&W gear or talking aboot tha TOOOON in wildly exaggerated accents

 

Will be from Durham marra, they like to exaggerate the accent for acceptance into the “Geordie culture “

 

More PLEASE PLEASE PLEASES. Ashley buying it back would be stuff of fantasy island !

 

I think we should start a petition begging the Government to allow the Saudi's to buy Man. United. I fear for the mental health of Mancunians if it doesn't go through. Perhaps Alexander Boris De Pfeiffel Johnson could have a word in a few ears on their behalf

 

I was first called a 'mackem bastard' on my first working day for a newcastle based firm 47 years ago, so it was certainly used back then.

 

I believe the Davy Lamp was tested at Hebburn Colliery early 19th Century

 

This has got me searching, and much to my surprise I instantly found support for you in that prior to the word being used by Sunderland people, from the late 1980's, it was used by some from Newcastle as a 'disparaging term' to Sunderland people.

However, 'WIKI' goes even further with ----

According to the current entry in the Oxford English Dictionary, the earliest occurrence of the word Mackem or Mak’em in print was in 1988.[5] However, as evidenced by the attached news articles, the word Mak’em (or Mackem) has been much in evidence for a great many years prior to 1988. Indeed, one of the articles attached dates to 1929.

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This has been an interesting exercise, and I for one have learned some new things, always a plus.

In passing one of the things I came across was that the Black Cat connection may be a tad more complicated than most of us thought.
It seems that there used to be an artillery battery on the top of Roker Cliffts during the French Revolutionary Wars, known locally as -- The Black Cats Battery.
There was a claim that a Black Cat appeared on the early Club Badge, but no accompanying picture.

 

I hope she doesn't see this then...

 

https://www.themag.co.uk/2022/12/sa...vgioVXBf39RjLpAE5OwZitDbkX4skdrBRM9jrMAkL8ZB8

 

Depends how far back really.

But in the late sixties, as a kid I had a few enamel badges with a black cat on them. I think it was somewhere on some 1937 stuff too.

The use of the word Mackem was very common when I started work in the mid seventies too.

 

Unlikely, but would be hilarious

 

****underland doesn't exactly roll off the tongue, where as Poocastle does.