Sorry if you thought your thread had been hijacked Duggie. However, the subject is much wider than just talking about Man City. The Premier League has fair play rules which are nothing like as stringent as those set by EUFA - so, to an extent, the Premier League is on trial here and not just Man City. Are EUFA firing a warning here at the rest of the Prem. ? I would like to think that were the case because City may just be the tip of the iceburg here - others could follow. Will the Premier League be jolted into action here to launch an enquiry of their own ? The case is also open as to what happens with the 4 alloted English places for the Champions League - does this offer a route for Sheff Utd ? Or will EUFA cut their allocation to 3 for the duration of the ban ?