Fred isn't a defensive midfielder as such, he's more a number 6, which I'd say is a comparable type of player to Nick Butt or Ander Hererra for instance. He's not as good as either of those, but he's not as bad as Treble is making out IMHO. He works hard and makes a nuisance of himself. At least he works for his wages. Before anyone scoffs, this type of player has been valuable to United since forever, with Park, Fletcher and O'Shea good recent examples. I reckon if we got Rice in, it would be Matic who'd leave. Fred would stay and still have a job to do. I actually reckon McTominay would make a decent centre half but whether that is ever actually tried is unlikely.