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Postecoglou & Lange (& Paratici) Watch

Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by Dier Hard, Apr 19, 2021.

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Next gaffer, who's your preference?

  1. Arne Slot

  2. Ruben Amorim

  3. Luis Enrique

  4. Ange Postocoglou

  5. Brendan Rodgers

  6. Graham Potter

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  1. The RDBD

    The RDBD Well-Known Member

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    The methods won't be a secret.

    What measures they are gathering, and what
    combo of measures + measure threshold values
    they use to derive actionable info (decline,
    send a scout, buy etc) certainly will be.
     
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  2. PowerSpurs

    PowerSpurs Well-Known Member

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    There isn't much evidence that there is a new manager bounce.
     
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  3. PowerSpurs

    PowerSpurs Well-Known Member

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    I am pretty sure that between them they only sold five or six players to a current top 6 club. We need fourteen or fifteen to give us a chance.
     
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  4. PleaseNotPoll

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    You'd have to assume that we'd be able to sign players that they can't, though.
    They may have highlighted better signings that they can't currently attract or couldn't afford.
     
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  5. Spurf

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    I am not clear what you are saying. Surely 5 or 6 is pretty good if not excellent considering their purchasing and pulling power. How many of our current players would another top 6 club want? Romero, Kane, Son, Kulusevski, Bentancur? 5 or 6?
     
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  6. The RDBD

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    Their "moneyball" system should be a function of
    at least two parameters : "Aims" and "Budget" .

    It would be very interesting to see what set of
    players are common to both them and Spurs, after
    the Aims and Budget steps are applied.
     
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  7. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    Safe to say Nagelsmann is just slightly the favourite at the moment amongst those on here!
     
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  8. KingHotspur

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    Is he the right fit for Spurs though?
     
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  9. humanbeingincroydon

    humanbeingincroydon Well-Known Member

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    "Julian, which direction do you think the team should pass the ball?"
    "Forwards"
    "You're hired!"
     
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  10. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    I definitely think he fits the coaching style of what we need but we can never be 100% sure until he's been here for a while.

    I actually like a lot of the managers that are being touted as possible options, both those heavily and loosely linked, so I'm hoping with about 10 decent candidates potentially gettable I won't be disappointed this time around like I was when we appointed Nuno in the summer of 21.
     
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  11. The RDBD

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    Recent Spurs managers who have moved the club
    upwards (PL top 4 etc) while playing entertaining attacking
    football in the process :

    - BMJ
    - Arry
    - Pochettino
    - Conte (final third of 2021-22)


    Which currently available managers do you believe
    would be akin to any of the above ??
     
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  12. PleaseNotPoll

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    I wouldn't say that they're particularly akin to each other.
     
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  13. Left on the Shelf

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    Difficult to see any new manager/coach making a significant difference here.
    In fact, I wouldn't mind betting that if Mourinho and Conte put all the £m's they have had from Spurs into creating an entirely new club team, they would still likely end up winning something before us! <doh>
     
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  14. The RDBD

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    I did not say they were,
     
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  15. KingHotspur

    KingHotspur Well-Known Member

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    If only it was that simple
     
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  16. humanbeingincroydon

    humanbeingincroydon Well-Known Member

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    I mean the last three had issues with that...
     
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  17. KingHotspur

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    Scoring goals hasn’t been the problem.

    Keeping them out on the other hand…
     
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  18. humanbeingincroydon

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    Scoring goals has been the problem, as all too often if an opponent scores first we may as well go and do something else - especially after opponents sussed out our very predictable attacking patterns under Conte and especially the ubermensch
     
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  19. KingHotspur

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    Spurs have scored plenty of goals though.

    Keeping clean sheets and the defensive errors have been the issue.
     
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  20. PowerSpurs

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    On your last point, whatever you think of our players we are actually in the top 6 so perhaps more of them pass muster than you think. None of the players sold by Brighton and Brentford look anywhere near as good as those so far.

    The point I am trying to make is if you are a mid-table club fishing in a large pool of players available for £20m or less then a small edge in identifying which of those players is the best might well translate into better onfield performance because you are reasonably likely to be able to sign the players you want.

    In our case, as an aspirant to join the elite, even a big edge in data analysis might not help much as the number of excellent players is much smaller and most of those, given the choice, would join one of our more successful rivals instead of us.
     
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