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Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Turtle, Oct 9, 2019.

  1. The Norton Cat

    The Norton Cat Well-Known Member

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    Well not really, or I'd be Sunderland manager.
    I would say that Grigg isn't too good for this division. He can only do it in this division and his record is patchy. I think in 8 seasons in League 1 he's only hit double figures in half of those, though when he does its 20 upwards. I thought he was a panic signing at the time and didn't expect him to be successful.
    As for the other two, they are clearly our two better players but they aren't always available. Plus, it's a team game, someone else has to step up to the mark when those aren't playing or aren't performing and there's no one who has shown they are capable of doing that.
     
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  2. MKmackem

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    He was way to stubborn for his own good, you could put it down to arrogance. The job was way to big for him from the beginning, I honestly thought he would have learned from last season...heyho bring in the new manager whoever its gonna be...life is never dull with SAFC
     
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  3. jdsafc

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    That rings a bell - the Butcher bit.
    I think we are trying to morph in to being Wigan
     
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    Thanks for the reply, very reasoned and well thought out, as usual. <ok>
     
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  5. The Norton Cat

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    It's all a ploy to get Grigg firing!
     
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  6. Sonnyboy

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    Stendel's record last season was pretty spectacular, but his demise this season equally so. Is Barnsley's loss of form down to him, or their recruitment policy?

    According to the BBC:
    "Barnsley use a 'Moneyball' spreadsheet model for finding players. Not all of them are going to work and trying to make the ones that do arrive work in a harder division than League One was always going to be tough."

    I don't pretend to understand what that means so I would be grateful if anyone could enlighten me!
     
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  7. jdsafc

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    LOL
    Playing to his strengths would be a good start

    Cheers
     
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  8. Nordic

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    buying players who played elsewhere, but failed, on the cheap.
    you need to know your own playing system inside and out though, to know the discount players that could fit the mould
    otherwise you're double-****ed
     
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  9. cumbrianmackem

    cumbrianmackem Well-Known Member

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    I read somewhere that they lost three of their better players in the close season including their star striker, can't remember the names involved but the article said they signed up to 10 new players and it looks like they've replaced quality with quantity which hadn't worked out for them.
     
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  10. The Norton Cat

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    As @Nordic says. They use an empirical statistical analysis system to identify players to allow them to compete despite a smaller budget. Its first use is attributed to the Oakland Athletics baseball team and was considered to bypass conventional thinking. There's a book and film about it
     
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  11. flandersmackem

    flandersmackem Well-Known Member

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    I wouldn't be too disappointed with Rowett, I do think he has a successful job in him. Looking at his stats, only Stoke has been a blip on his career...
     
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    Would not be surprised to see us go for Paul Cook
    He has an excellent record 2 league two titles and a league one title.
    If he would bring Reid along with him then he may be a good fit.

    Personally don't really like the bloke. Hate listening to him (maybe just his arrogance and his Scouse accent)
    but maybe we need someone a bit abrasive. Ross and Coleman were really personable and excellent talkers
    but proved very poor where it matters on the pitch.
     
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    Aye, I'm sure we've been down that road before.
     
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  14. MKmackem

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    Just watched Stephen Elliot on SSN, he's bigging up super KP and Mick Mcarthy ( out of contract soon ), maybe a dream team ?
     
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  15. Billy Batts

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    They only bring in players aged 23 and under.
     
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  16. I don't get this love in with KP. Loved him in his time with us as a player,but what makes anyone think he can be our coach or manager?
     
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  17. SonOfHodge

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    Has to be a safe pair of hands who comes with a bit of a reputation IMO, need to be able to hit the ground running. Time has gone to make a gamble appointment.
     
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    Give him a tap-in on the goal line?
     
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  19. Nads

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    They sold their best 3 players and replaced them with ****. He had no say.

    That simple.
     
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  20. Ned Doig

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    Very much so. I didn't say it was factual.
     
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