Our club is acting very petty

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  1. KillerCephalopod

    KillerCephalopod Active Member

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    For the first time in my entire life, I shall be supporting a Portsmouth team against Southampton FC one, and in a cup final at that.

     
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    They're nothing to do with the official club, though, are they?
     
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  3. KillerCephalopod

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    Yes, Southampton FC Women are affiliated to the official club - they're the club that the club has applied for a licence in tier 2 of the Women's game for: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/43516116 - jumping over both established Southampton Women's teams in the process.
    Southampton Women FC have never been affiliated.
     
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  4. KillerCephalopod

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    Check the email address of the team contact to see for yourself: https://www.hcwfl.com/team-contacts/
    They appear to have no other official online presence though, execpt the FAs's "Full Time" Website: https://fulltime.thefa.com/ff/ClubDetails?clubid=a9474a87-1980-e311-8b4d-001e4f28882a&tab=teams

    I don't know why the club isn't promoting them more (aside from the fact that they play so far down the pyramid, of course).
     
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  5. fran-MLs little camera

    fran-MLs little camera Well-Known Member

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    I supported Newport AFC when they were disqualified after a 6-0 win because they fielded an ineligible player....disappointed, but just shrugged. There are rules...an annoying error was made but get over it. If you don't play by the rules, you are in a Mickey Mouse league....do the women really want that. I feel for their disappointment, but they have failed to notice something that an opposing side discovered easily. Blame the club secretary.
     
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    jonny 'hasen' shuttle Well-Known Member

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    does sound a tad harsh
    why was the player ineligible?
    was the player a bloke or something?
     
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  7. KillerCephalopod

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    I'd agree if it wasn't that by any normal reading of the rules the player was actually eligible. Hampshire FA are bending over backwards to accommodate a premiership club by playing semantics over the word "participate"
    At this point in the competition, she had to have "participated" in it before in order to play. She'd been an unused sub in the cup a few times before, so by a normal person's reading she *was* eligible, after all subs get winners medals too. Hampshire FA decided to use their vague wording to accommodate a premiership club.
    Rule 49 here: http://www.hampshirefa.com/cups-and-competitions/rules-and-documents
     
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    Not saying it's the most "ethical" way of going about things but nothing wrong with the club launching a complaint if they have broken the rules. Whether you agree with the rules or not is another matter. Just one of those things sadly.
     
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    Osvaldorama Well-Known Member

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    Fair play. Don’t break the rules and you won’t lose out. Next.
     
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    Also, write the statement correctly. I still have no idea who beat who or who complained about what.
     
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  11. fran-MLs little camera

    fran-MLs little camera Well-Known Member

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    The Pompey ladies are a very good side, so the team that won the argument may very well lose the battle. Though I would never hope that they do....supporting Pompey is a step too far. :)
     
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    southampton beat southampton but southampton lodged a complaint which southampton appealed but the fa rejected southamptons appeal so southampton got kicked out and southampton took its place in the final and southampton are upset about it so KillerCephalopod is supporting Portsmouth now.

    Thats how i understood it anyway.
     
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    My Sunday league team got kicked out of a cup for this very reason many years ago. We were pretty pissed off as we only threw the guy on for five minutes... but those are the rules.

    I think a top women's team should know the rules better than a bunch of drunken idiots...
     
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    Indeed. Southampton complained about their 0-4 loss to Southampton.
     
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  16. KillerCephalopod

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    There are three main women's teams in Southampton - Southampton Saints Girls & Ladies (formerly Red Star Southampton & once affiliated to the club until we were last relegated), Southampton Women's FC (never affiliated to the club, the most successful Women's team in Southampton & only Arsenal have won the women's FA cup more times) & most recently the club has launched Southampton FC women, currently affiliated to the regional talent centre based at the club and playing in a league well below the other two, but they've applied to jump up to the second tier above the other two by virtue of being backed by a premier league club. All three Southampton teams were in the semi-finals along with Pompey.

    Yes, Pompey ladies are very good, I saw them against Southampton Women's earlier in the season. Totally unsegregated, it was weird but despite Southampton losing, it was great to see fans mixing without any trouble. Southampton FC also currently play in a league that allow rolling subs, so they aren't used to proper three subs rule like Pompey & Southampton Women who are much higher in the pyramid.
    With any luck, Southampton Women will get their 4th sucsessive promotion & will be playing in the same division as Pompey next season.
     
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  17. KillerCephalopod

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    About that - the rivalry is with Southampton FC, I recently realised I've not been to a Southampton FC game all season but I've been to a lot of Southampton Women's games & even followed reserves & U16s results. They say you can't change clubs but Southampton Women U16 won the league cup this morning, against Bournemouth in the final. I have no idea what the current Saints v Bournemouth score is. I've been far too elated for the girls.
    The Womens club has gone out of it's way to welcome me; they've been an actual *club* run by people who are passionate, not people who are there for the money or fame - this season I think I've changed clubs from Southampton FC to Southampton Womens, so the Pompey thing doesn't bother me as it would have done, only last year. Bye bye Saints.
     
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    Beef Well-Known Member

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    Like I said on another thread a few weeks back. There was plans to pump a lil money into Southampton ladies and have some of their games at ST Mary's. Also to start promoting them more. But it will be scrapped if we are relegated
     
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    They already applied for a second tier licence according to the BBC:
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/43516116
    despite playing at tier 7 currently. The established Southampton teams play at Tier 4, one possibly Tier 3 next season (Southampton Womens FC are unbeaten all season so far, drawing only once. Plymouth Ladies are exactly the same, they are yet to play eachother with only three games of the season left.)
     
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    It will be scrapped if we get relegated. I was talking to a guy that helps run it.
     
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