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  1. sensiblegreeny

    sensiblegreeny Well-Known Member
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    The perils of social media coming home to roost once more. That's what you get for being a twat publicly even if it was several years ago. I also think that sections of society ought to harden up a tad. If a few stupid words on the internet upset them to that extent then to be fair they deserve to have the piss taken out of them. I was going to say "grow a pair" but I'd guess that would be taken as an offensive remark. It's a figure of speech that doesn't mean you have to have dangly bits to survive by the way. Just thought I needed to clarify.
     
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    I was watching on the news tonight the bit about May meets Trump for a chat. No flies on old Teresa is there. Whilst in the same room as Trump she firmly sat down with her knees clamped together tightly and arms folded across her chest. Don't blame her for not taking chances.
     
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    1.....E-CIGARETTE vapour could raise the risk of developing cancer and heart disease in as little as ten years, a study suggests.
    Researchers from New York University School of Medicine said that although it was clear that vaping was less harmful than smoking, it should still not be promoted as safe.
    Around three million people use e-cigarettes in Britain, and since 2015 Public Health England (PHE) has encouraged smokers to switch to vaping, claiming it is 95% safer than tobacco. The scientists looked for DNA mutations in mice, as well as human lungs, bladder and heart cells, when exposed to e-cigarettes for the equivalent of ten years. They found that in comparison to filtered air, the vapour damaged DNA and prevented it repairing itself.
    Writing in the 'Proceedings of the National Academy of Science', the authors concluded: "It is therefore possible that e-cigarette smoke may contribute to lung and bladder cancer, as well as heart disease, in humans." E-cigarettes do not contain carcinogenic chemicals present when tobacoo is burned. However, the US scientists say that nicotine can be transformed into cancer-causing chemicals called nitrosamines.
    Dr Ed Stephens, senior research fellow at the University of St Andrews , said the research was "consistent with the widely held view that vaping is not without risk of cancer".
    However, Prof Peter Hajek, director of the Tobacco Dependence Research Unit, Queen Mary University of London, who advised PHE on its guidance, warned that the study could not be used to show an effect on humans.

    My thoughts.....I have never ever smoked, but have been subjected many times to E-cigarette "clouds" whilst walking down the pavement and in more confined areas....it doesn't surprise me that there might still be a risk of cancer inhaling E-cigarettes, I find it hard to believe that filling your lungs with chemicals is no less harmful than tobacco. I find it amazing people can smoke E-cigarettes in cars with the windows closed and literally disappear into a cloud of smoke so that their driving vision resembles a 1950's London pea-souper style fog....and I can certainly remember them as a teenager trying to get home from south London from work....taking three or four hours to do an hours journey.


    2.....Angela Merkel's negotiations on forming a new coalition government in Germany have run into renewed trouble over migration.
    Nine hours of talks ended shortly before 2am yesterday without the parties reaching an agreement.
    Mrs Merkel's Christian Democrats (CDU) and the Social Democrats (SPD) are working against the clock to hammer out a coalition agreement before a self-imposed deadline of Sunday night.
    But migration remains a sticking point, even after Mrs Merkel gave up her "open doors" refugee policy and agreed to a limit on the number of asylum seekers allowed into Germany. She is in the unfamiliar position of trying to prevent more migrants entering Germany, with the centre-left SPD pushing for a more open migration policy.
    The dispute centres on whether asylum-seekers already inside the country can bring their relatives to join them. Mrs Merkel's party wants to limit family reunification to those given full refugee status, while the SPD wants to extend it to asylum-seekers granted a temporary stay.
    The CDU is backed by its Bavarian sister party, the Christian Social Union, which is also taking part in the talks. There were reports yesterday that the parties were close to a compromise which would grant family reunification for those allowed a temporary stay limited to 1,000 a month, and exemptions in case of hardship.
    But the mood appeared tense, with the SPD accusing the other parties of leaking details of the talks.
    "We won't put up with talk outside the negotiations," an unnamed party source told 'Bild' newspaper.
    The parties are also divided over the issue of healthcare. The SPD wants to end private health insurance and is pushing for reforms to prevent access to more expensive treatment, a policy which is vehemently opposed by Mrs Merkel's party.

    My thoughts.....Migration even in Germany who at first had a "open doors" policy is now becoming a problem....When Merkel lost ground after their General election she lost her coalition party (who lost seats) shades of Mrs May losing ground after our General election. Not an easy subject....a country needs to be in charge of who it lets in or not. So control of freedom of movement is also important plus migrant control.
     
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  4. sensiblegreeny

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    I've smoked plym although I don't now. In my experience most of the information put out there on the subject is contrived depending on who is paying for the research. I'm not advocating that it's actually good for you by the way. The information on the E-Cig is more than likely the result of the Tobacco industry wanting to show that the information that E-Cigs is better than tobacco is not true and would want to paint it in as bad a light as possible. The truth is that we all know that setting fire to something and breathing in the smoke is never going to enhance lungs and taking chemicals into your system isn't going to improve it either. You actually don't need research to tell you that if you possess a brain cell. One thing I would add though. For all the non-smokers complain about people smoking near them or even at all, there is not one of them who would think twice about getting into their car and driving it in a built up City Centre area where thousands of people breathe in their fumes. Put somebody in a closed garage with a fag and they would have to smoke thousands and thousands to kill themselves. Put them in there with a car engine running and it would take about an hour so who is the right or wrong one? Walk down the average high street these days and you can actually taste the air. Anyone want to ban cars?
     
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  5. notDistantGreen

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    I saw a reputable scientist talking about the issue recently. His argument was that E-cigarettes were certainly safer in relation to lung cancer because the combustion products weren't being inhaled in the same way. Because lung cancer is the greatest risk from smoking, he agreed it was better to use E-cigarettes if the smoker couldn't give up completely, which was of course the best option.

    However, lung cancer isn't the only risk from smoking, with others including heart disease etc. and these risks persist with E-cigarettes. He wasn't in favour of people who don't already smoke touching E-cigarettes with a barge pole.

    They look so stupid though. Can't imagine Humphey Bogart and Lauren Bacall engaging in flirty banter about their E-cigarettes can you? Death before dishonour.
     
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