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Discussion in 'Southampton' started by ChilcoSaint, Feb 23, 2016.

  1. ChilcoSaint

    ChilcoSaint Lives in a Chilcohüttl
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    Don’t forget the Lib Dem’s also went into the 2010 election promising to scrap tuition fees and ended up tripling them.

    The one unsavoury factor in that brilliant march yesterday was some of the Lib Dem banners and placards. Practically every other political party group I saw carried placards focussing on stopping Brexit, but the LD’s ones were often almost sectarian in their hostility to Labour (Corbyn in particular) as well as the Tories.

    They will be a big factor in the 2 upcoming campaigns though, and I am prepared to hold my nose and campaign alongside them in the referendum, and I will be, sadly, forced to vote for them in the General Election. The only consolation is that Tessa Munt was a great constituency MP for Wells from 2010 to 2015, and definitely deserves another shot.
     
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    I first worked for Labour on October 8 1959. My best mate and myself ran the voting sheets from the polling station to the committee room in his parent's house, I was seven. We did the same job in '64 when Wilson won. But you know your idea isn't such a bad one, after sixty years it's time for a change of scenery, so I just filled in the Lib Dem application.

    And btw I think Brexit will now pass, not with LD votes, not with SNP votes not with DUP votes, but with Labour votes.
     
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  3. ChilcoSaint

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    Someone has been adding fake book covers to David Cameron’s book in Foyle’s bookshop:
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  4. Archers Road

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    Regarding your last sentence, if Boris gets his Brexit it will be at least in part due to Jo Swinson grandstanding her personal animosity to Jeremy Corbyn, and in so doing scuppering hopes for a VoNC and interim government of National Interest.

    But let’s not start apportioning blame for something that hasn’t happened yet.
     
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    I sincerely hope that we don't have to. Having said that I really cannot see any way that Corbyn can be absolved of blame. As I said earlier he damned Remain with faint praise and that was most likely crucial in the result. It's no good blaming a party that has been solid for Remain throughout.

    What Labour must do now us to make it clear to any tempted to vote for Pfeffels latest wheelbarrow full of lies and half truths that the price for this is instant and permanent expulsion from the party. Just like they did to Alistair Campbell.
     
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  6. St Badger

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    Reference your first paragraph, this is something that should be done for all political programmes, (imagine the damage done to an MP when a claim made is instantly proven to be untrue) but in this instance I would commission an independent programme to do what you say and broadcast it on every terrestrial tv channel, at the same time, in order to TRY and get the majority of the country to watch it.
    Let’s take it a step further and enforce the same facts being printed in all the written media outlets, without any editorial comment.
    It would be good for right wing newspaper readers to read something actually based on truth, for once.
    Totally agree with the Tory austerity comment. That has always been the major cause of unrest, especially amongst the poor, ably assisted by the mainstream media.
     
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    Pfeffel is going to get it through with ten or a dozen Labour votes. Those people will be motivated by several different things, but essentially they are decent people unable to see through the thin veneer of reasonableness put forward by the government. Once they have been used and it's too late they will find out how they have been lied to and deceived.
     
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    There was no chance of that succeeding simply because Corbyn can't get the support of the Tory rebels. Harriet Harman, Ken Clarke or Margaret Beckett would have been acceptable.
     
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    the people who blocked the deal last time were Boris and his cronies so it wouldnt be a surprise that it gets through now they have got hold of the power they wanted and are now voting for it.

    He's deceived the people well into thinking there's been actual movement from the eu in this deal
     
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    I think this is a really good analogy and could be used to explain many things that are happening just now.

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    And so does Peter Kyle

     
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    This "deal" that spaffer and his cronies tried to steamroller though parliament needs scrutinising thoroughly.
     
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    That is brilliant .
     
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    Only the best went to the Poly of Wales :emoticon-0128-hi:
     
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    SaintinSerbia Annoying Twat

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    blimey, that's 3 of us went there! (I did BSc Chemical Engineering) and stayed in Wales for 26 years!
     
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    When were you there? I did BA Business Studies, from 1981 to 1986.
     
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    I was there from 88-90...I dropped out two years into my BA Accountancy. Glad I did too....I'm boring, but not that boring :)
     
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    SaintinSerbia Annoying Twat

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    finished in 82, so we probably passed each other at some point!
     
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  20. SaintinSerbia

    SaintinSerbia Annoying Twat

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    interesting that business studies and accountancy are classed as Arts!
     
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