Off Topic Politics Thread

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-53761744

What?

 

I am always loathe to use this word but this man and is cronies are a bunch of ****s, If ever anyone was promoted beyond their abilities it was this man and his fellow cabinet members. I have a devastated granddaughter whose predicted grade have been downgraded I will never forgive this corrupt load of bastards. They have destroyed the chances of a generation of young people. They do not apply logic to solve problems they apply prejudice, dogma and blind ****ing ignorance.

 

And just to add salt to the wound, grades for students from Eton and Harrow were NOT marked down.

Pitchforks are being sharpened as I write. They cannot be allowed to do this to our children and grandchildren.

 

The issue of immigration overlooks a number of factors created by the West. Firstly, the fixation with Capitalism means that those countries with an advantage will be able to maintain this position to their benefit. The success of many European countries stems from economic changes that were initiated in the late 17th century which gives them a 350 year advantage, not only with regard to industry and technology, but more importantly banking and financial institutions. Furthermore, they have the means of cheaper credit and can outsource labour abroad where low salary levels can be exploited. There is no benefit to Western countries in seeing wage increases in these countries as it will make the products they produce more expensive. It is in their interest that labour rates in the developing world are depressed. Whilst come effort is made to address the imbalance by foreign aid, the economic forces at work together with corruption ensures that it does not have the desired effect.

On top of this, these economies were frequently reliant of carbon-based fuels with the consequence that global warming has ensured that those countries caught in regions that are affected with become less viable. In addition, the sale of arms to many countries by the European countries has made the situation unstable.

To a large extent, the current "migration crisis" is something of our own making and it totally understandable. It does amaze me that some people in this country cannot see this and consider the immigrants the problem rather than the fact that the free market economy is actually what has provoked the problem in the first place. As long as countries work in their own interest, this will always be a problem and now an unscrupulous China is emerging as the world's economic superpower, the situation will only get worse.

The irony is that the likes of Nigel Farage are essential cogs in the system that is causing this and that they are too stupid to recognize the fact. Unfortunately, there is not a solution and there will ultimately be mass immigration on a far greater scale which Britain and the rest of the West will be unable to stop. I do not see this as being a full blown "invasion" at the moment and the situation will become far more significant as parts of the world cease to become unviable. It is very much a case of "all road lead to Rome." This is the ultimate conclusion of Capitalism as there are clear winners and losers with the latter now able to improve their lot as is only natural by exploiting enhanced methods of travel that as no longer impractical. The writing should have been on the wall 100 years ago. The protestations in papers such as the Express and Mail are very much akin to trying to close the stable doors once the horse has bolted. In the last century, these kinds of issues were identified by the likes of Trotsky yet, move forward to the 21st century, I think that the problem now goes well beyond politics and is indicative of how we have allowed the world to develop over the last century. You cannot blame people for wanting to improve their lives when the factors which have caused the issue of migration is solely a consequence of the market system we have created. It is just human nature and no one is going to accept being told that they they should be denied the opportunity to improve their lives. If you like, this is almost what Margaret Thatcher had anticipated albeit we are now seeing this replayed on a global scale. There will be no stopping immigrants trying to reach the UK until the global economic model is changed. We cannot even agree how we leave the EU and therefore there will be no accord on such a global scale. The immigrant situation will eventually become unmanageable as global warming takes effect.

 

I have a feeling that this is likely to cause a massive issue, as these kids (and teachers - my daughter at a school in Berkshire, says they're up in arms about it) will NEVER forget what this shower of **** have done to them and it'll (hopefully) come back and bite these bastards. I hope everyone affected by this goes out now and registers to vote!
Also - and I saw this earlier today - ANY child affected by this "ruling" should IMMEDIATELY contact their university personally (in person if possible but phone otherwise) and bombard them with e-mails highlighting the unfairness of the whole thing and showing estimated results versus the "calculated" ones. Plus get the media involved. If enough stink can be made and continue to be made and when the universities realise they're not going to get the number of overseas students they're expecting, they may well be open to taking these grades.
I am beyond incandescent (again) with these useless tossers who rule us ........... Time to rise up and revolt, brothers and sisters .........

 

We had the War of the Roses, the Civil War and the Glorious Revolution to get rid of **** leadership. How on earth are we going to get rid if this bunch of shysters?

Oscar Wilde wrote “If a man is a gentleman he knows quite enough, and if he is not a gentleman, whatever he knows is likely to be bad for him.”

That is a true reflection of our political elite.

 

Is that because they bull ****ted the testing figures in the first place.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...etly-drops-13m-covid-tests-from-england-tally

 

Another one of a long list, including but not limited to, hospitals, nurses and doctors, the police and probation services, schools and teachers.

 

I have seen reference to the Dublin III Regulation, with regards to immigration.
As I understand it, (I could easily be wrong) an immigrant seeking asylum in the UK can be refused and under the Dublin III Regulation be returned to the EU country that he/she first entered.
If I have got it right, our leaving the EU will negate this regulation, thus making it impossible for us to send immigrants back to an EU country.
Given the rhetoric coming out of Patel, I would guess that the UK would refuse to accept them and send them back to the country from which they are fleeing, putting their lives at risk, rather than accept them.

The headlines in the Mail and Express could reach even more manically, racist heights once the EU stop playing ball with us.

Footnote- feel free to correct me if I have misunderstood the regulation.

 

Speaking of Dublin, I do wonder if after Brexit the easiest route into the UK will be via Ireland and then over the unguarded border into Northern Ireland. I am sure that there are Irish " businessmen" working on such a scheme even as I type.

 

Another good monologue from James O’Brien, this one about the exam fiasco and privilege.

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/n...dium=cpc&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=tlb

 

I tried to make sense of it, but I’m afraid it’s beaten me. Here’s the whole thing, see if you can do better than me!
https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/en/ALL/?uri=celex:32013R0604

 

Have to agree with Piers here.

 

Morgan the organ, man of the people, righteous indignation on behalf of the nation. Can't help but think he's got more faces than a watchmakers toolbox.

 

The watch analogy is a good one, because like a stopped watch, he’s right twice a day. I’ll certainly agree with him on this!

 

Dominic Raab has been downgraded to Dominic Rccd, in line with recent Government guidelines.

 

Interesting read, and fairly accurate imo.

https://rachaelswindon.blogspot.com/2020/08/why-isnt-keir-starmers-labour-party-20.html

 

Can't disagree, StB. The sad indictment of the British voter is, no matter what they seem to think, they ultimately appear to believe what they're told in the mainstream media (nearly all of which is controlled by the right wing) and they still do not trust Labour because of history (and they're reminded at every turn by the MMS). Meanwhile, Labour cannot seem to make up it's mind if it wants to be a true opposition, a marxist cabal led by the unions (and those of us of a certain age can remember how that didn't turn out well) or a right-leaning Blairite party. So they're busy in-fighting whilst the Tory government rob the country blind and make it even more difficult to get them out.
I seriously think that what this country needs is a progressive Socialist party who could take control, change voting from FPTP to PR, properly fund the NHS, close the tax loopholes and make companies and individuals pay their fare share and get us back on our feet again. Sadly, this is highly unlikely to happen, as the media won't allow it, the Lib-Dems and moderate socialists are too ****-scared of losing big-time to even risk it, the unions seem to be controlled by ultra-left wing zealots again and the current government are sitting pretty (what was it - something like 40% said they thought Johnson was still doing a decent job?) - so, I think, we're going to have to suck it up, carry on being subservient to the ruling elite and be prepared to see the country taken back to victorian days where the toffs rule and the rest of us can go hang. I'm very depressed .................