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Discussion in 'Southampton' started by ChilcoSaint, Feb 23, 2016.

  1. Power to the Billies

    Power to the Billies Well-Known Member

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    I would have thought there would be many takers to do the hair cut.

    ...oooops my scissors repeatedly slipped :emoticon-0127-lipss
     
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    So another label to add. Gung ho handshaking gobshite slaphead spaffer Johnson. I may have missed several.
     
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    Watching a snippet on the news about the George Floyd trial in America, got me thinking about the way the police officer was pinning him down by kneeling on his neck.
    Surely, during the teaching of this restraining method, they would have been told of the dangers?
    Many, many moons ago, I enrolled my boys into a judo class and after a while enrolled myself, and I recall being taught a stranglehold that was designed to cut off the blood flow to the brain, to force your opponent to cede or they risked passing out.
    That stranglehold entailed putting pressure on the sides of the neck, which the cop’s knee was doing.
    My point being if he was trained in this technique and informed of the risks of not releasing the pressure periodically, he is bang to rights guilty.
     
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    He's almost certainly guilty of at least one count. Whether that's the most serious charge of 2nd degree murder or just manslaughter is a decision for the jury.
     
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    Turns out they listed a bunch of well-respected scholars as consultants and contributors who had nothing to do with the report:



     
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  6. St Badger

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    I read that they had used the names of two people, without consent, but now that has risen to four just shows the contempt with which the government treats this country.
    Factor in that two key people asked to oversee the report, are previously on record for saying that institutionalised racism doesn’t exist, and you can see that this report was never going to find anything other than what the government wanted it to find.
     
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  9. St Badger

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    I expect this will speed up the end of the NHS as we know it.
    What a legacy for Tory voters, if/when this happens.
    The Tory party will eventually get what they want because they voted against the inception of the NHS 23 (I believe) times.

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    To be fair my hair has not been cut since December and it is a right mess.
     
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  11. thereisonlyoneno7

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    Welcome to the 10" fringe club :)
     
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  12. rednright

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    Working class Britain was and always will be extremely patriotic and europhobic. the recent behaviour of the EU in respect to interrupting private industry supply chains will have done little to improve this position.
     
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    Sadly, I agree. I am 100% a remainer, but I was reading an article this morning on Lord Botham (who if we remember was/is a Brexitier) and I found myself agreeing with him over a similar comment he made - this was the first opportunity to show how wrong we were to leave and we wouldn't be where were are in vaccinations if we had remained.
     
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    Don’t know where you got your information from, but if it was one of the Mail, Express, Telegraph or Sun, I would suggest that you find a more reliable and truthful source.
    Your comment “the recent behaviour of the EU in respect to interrupting private industry supply chains“.
    The UK voted to become a third country, which meant that supplies into the EU and from the EU would be subjected to different rules, rules that the UK helped to create whilst a member of the EU.
    The EU has actually allowed us time to try and get our act together, rather than impose the rules as hard as they could do, so blaming them for this clusterfuck is completely wrong.
    All the damage done to private industry has been done by the UK government, and more importantly by the Tory party who decided to come out of the single market and the customs union, thus inflicting those damaging rules on private industry and it could get worse before it gets better. But not because of the EU.
    If you voted Leave then put your hands up and acknowledge that you had something to do with the mess we are in, because of Brexit, instead of blaming someone else.
     
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    Entirely the uks fault for business going south.

    The EU on the otherhand have also been showing their colours with 2 actions of their own:

    1. Using ireland as a card and having to backtrack because they messed up.

    2. Threatening to stop az from exporting their vaccines because az are not kotowing to the EU and giving them the dosage they promised.

    I cant say the EU have been blameless in the vaccine palaver
     
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    The fault líes with Johnson. He is the PM.so whatever carp happens to.the UK it is his responsibility. And he needs to take responsibility for the damage Brexit has caused to a strong of UK exports. He negotiated and accepted the deal so he needs to carry the can.
     
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  17. thereisonlyoneno7

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    Agreed Ides, but credit where credit is due. By more luck than judgement admittedly, we are ahead of the game in vaccinations, and probably wouldn't be where we are now if we had remained.

    It is just everything else is a mess.

    I am beginning to think that if Johnson fell through Burtons roof he would land into a new suit.
     
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    You're lucky you have enough hair to notice when it grows :emoticon-0138-think
     
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    Possibly the post I agree with most, after thousands of utter bollox. I would be very interested in voting for this, if it ever happened :emoticon-0148-yes:
     
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  20. Ian Thumwood

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    There was a discussion on Radio 4 last week where they looked at Johnson's reputation for posterity and considered how his stock will have perceived to have improved since ditching Cummings. I would have thought that leaving the EU would have had serious detrimental effects to the economy yet the EU themselves will be in a parlous situation with their own economies with will be hampered by the failure to procure vaccines. Yesterday's Telegraph contained a good article regarding Macron and laid the blame for the anti-UK stance taken by the EU on French interference. It also shed some light on the reluctance to accept the AZ vaccine and the current negotiations with Russia to acquire their Sputnik vaccine. All the while, the Russian government exploiting the perceived weakness of the EU on the world stage following the departure of the UK.

    What does not get reported too much in the UK is the way that domestic politics is working on the continent where, for example, Macron is mockingly known as "Le Roi" and where his"En Marche" party looks like being wiped out in next year's elections. Domestically, Macron is perceived to have handled the pandemic very poorly and often contradicting himself. Macron's "pandemic" performance has been little better than Trump's or Bolsonaro's and I think people need to wake up to the fact that this idiot has too much influence over the EU. I would go so far to say that I am glad we have Johnson and not Macron , he is that bad. (Vaccine roll out in Fance is terrible and the trashing Marcon has giving to AZ had discouraged take-up anyway.) There is similar dissatisfaction with Merkel in Germany.

    I voted against Brexit and I still feel that a united Europe is the best solution. However, I do not feel that the EU have behaved honourably and the vaccine situation has demonstrated the current set on incumbents like Ursula Von der Leyen to be grossly incompetent. Regardless of how you feel about the EU, their current poor performance cannot and should not be defended. I do not think it should be used as an argument for Brexit but it is indicative that the EU are as equally capable to getting hopeless politicians elected as anywhere else. The population of Europe does have the right to hold them to account for their failures during the pandemic.
     
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