Prem board betting thread

People play the slots because of the chance of a big win. Same reason people play the lottery or roulette, except there is a lot more entertainment in slots as they are more interactive and stuff happens far more regularly.

I agree with the advertising bans, so many people gamble that it’s bound to cause issues with addiction. The amount of casino streamers around now which young kids will be watching and either thinking it’s easy to win or completely devaluing money doesn’t bode well either. Plus the various computer games which include a form of gambling within them I’m sure causes some addiction issues

 

Not sure that’s true in my experience mate. They certainly don’t appear to like punters who win regularly off decent sized stakes.

 

Someone told me a while ago that it is all on algorithms. If you are winning regularly you move up a list of members on the site and they start monitoring you. He said that the way not to move up the list is to take about 10% of your winnings and go do a few spins on roulette. This makes you look like a punter rather than a pro and whilst you will likely lose the 10% you could also win more. It also moves you down the list of getting monitored.

The other option is to just use betfair exchange as they don’t care if you win or lose as they get paid either way. Once you hit something like 250k the commission goes up though to maybe unsustainable amounts, sounds like a lot but really doesn’t take that long to get there if you are betting regularly.

 

Yeah that all makes sense, I’m sure that’s very likely how it works.

I’m not sure how easy it is to place a really large stake bet on the exchange though, depends on the size of individual market I suppose, and that’ll be linked to the status of the event. I doubt you’d be able to find matches for a ten large wager on a lower league game for example.

 

It's betting patterns.

 

I think you’d be surprised. I spent awhile doing a system called laying the draw using it and whilst I wasn’t betting much more than a few hundred per game this was on any games that were on at the time. Betting on like the Serbian u11 league and pretty much always got matched.

You have to remember that the vast majority of the money on there is from the big bookies who are covering bets placed with them. So the number of accas etc in a Saturday I doubt you’d have trouble getting the 10k matched, it doesn’t all have to be from the same place as well. As long as you place the bet a few hours before kick off I reckon you’d be fine

 

Laying the draw ain't good.

 

Yeah I realised that after a while. Made a few tweaks which made it better but could see it almost certainly wouldn’t be profitable long term so sacked it off when I was a bit up

 

I’d have thought backing the draw with a view to laying it off 20-25 mins in would be the way to go.

Obviously relies on goals not being scored early.

 

The system I followed was you find a game where the home team is a decent favourite, something like 6/10 -9/10. You then lay the draw. The theory being that if the home team go a goal up you’ll be able to cash out for profit.

The system says to cash out as soon as the first goal goes in. I didn’t do this as thought it was stupid if the underdog away team scored inside the first 10-15 mins to cash out for a loss (draw would be likely as favourite expected to equalise). I used to wait til HT on all the games and reasses then. If favourite team was up by a couple of goals I’d just let it run, if it got back to within a goal I’d cash out for a profit.

If the underdog was up by two I’d cash out at HT if they were up by 3 I’d let it run and cash out if it got back to a 2 goal margin.

0-0s were the killer but I’d cash out at a loss around the 75 min mark if it was a draw at that point so I’d never lose the full amount. The system is flawed as it is easy to win 5/6 bets in a row but the wins are small and all it takes is one 0-0 to remove all the profit, so don’t think it would be profitable long term.

 

Still gambling. Won't work.

 

Systems don't work.
Finding and backing or laying value works.

Books have systems in place to pick up on sharps betting on value.

 

Books should be made to show their locked in profit on every betting market and what you are going to lose. They do this with slots, they should be made to do it with everything they sell.
So many people just don't understand how books work, at least if this was done it might save some from gambling addiction.

 

The online slots should just be banned imo. People don’t understand how they work despite the payout percentages. I know a bloke who blew over £350k on large stake on line slots, as he worked on the premise that it was akin to playing a physical slot in a boozer, and the regulated payout was unique to him, as opposed to the reality, that was there was however many people all playing the same ‘machine’ at the same time.

He was no duck egg either, amazingly he was a very bright, self made man, who ended up losing his wife and home over it. They’re bad news for everyone bar the bookies.

 

Always remember when I first started going in pubs, underage, I was watching this guy pump money into the slot machine, for a fair part of the evening, anyway, he eventually trotted off, having won fook all....you already know what I'm going to say.......I know nothing about slots, other than you feed them money, anyway, I thought let's give this a go, put in my 10p or 50p whatever it was, 50p could buy you a pack of cigs then, and we didn't have pound coins them days, first spin, all the bells came up...bingo! I actually thought I'd broke the fooking machine, it didn't stop pumping out coinage, I kept thinking it will stop in a minute haha. The coinage was falling on the floor it was so much. Anyway when it did eventually stopped, I was like fooking hell, how much is here, grabbed it and did a runner before the landlord tried to claim it back. #TrueStory

 

don't know if i mentioned this before but the the old slots at the pubs (that use mechanisms) have a tell on when they payout. I have a mate who used to make treks around the boozers round town to play on the machines to make money on slots make like 200/300 quid a trek. They would have to change their routes though as they normally get barred from the pubs if they keep visiting the same pubs and only ordering a orange juice. It's harder now as they have made them all electronic which get updated all the time so you can't tell when they get paid out.

 

I’m up about 14 grand, this year. 10 grand was won just in March. Over 6k at Cheltenham and the rest on footy and horses. I regularly place bets over £100.

I’ve had two accounts closed on me but none have been after big wins, it’s been when I’m sticking to the same bets on the same sport and they were coming in a lot. If you mix it up they’ll leave you alone in my opinion.

 

Yeah I remember people telling me something similar, around the time about the tell. All I remembered was watching the guy play and win fook all. so chanced my luck, I honestly thought the bloody thing had broke as it kept pinging the coins out....I was thinking, shut up now, this is going to start attracting attention, especially as I was underage as well!

I always remember the first bookie slip I placed as well. It was on the Derby, I couldn't decide between 3 horses, even though again I knew fook all about racing. So I placed on all three, I can't remember how I did that bet, but I remember all three horses coming in 1,2,3! I left it alone after that, I could see this would become way too addictive.

 

Losing bet for tonight

 

I’ve just watched the first half of Hull v Boro. Hull are terrible and Boro should run out comfortable winners here.