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Reading v Everton – Match Chat (17/11/2012)

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  1. daib0

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    Reading v Everton
    Saturday 17th November 2012 - Kick off 3.00 pm
    Madejski Stadium
    Premier League


    Game Introduction

    Away fans – if you’re coming to Reading, see our own special Royals Rendezvous Guide for Away fans – Travel and Drinks/Food : http://royalsrendezvous.co.uk/topic/9220871/1


    FORM GUIDE

    Table Positions:
    Reading 18th – 6 points (played 10 games)
    Everton 4th - 20 points (played 11 games)

    Reading Recent form:
    Lots of draws – 5 from last 6 league games, indicate we’re not getting outplayed, but of course with a win being three points (equal to three draws) the first win is just what we need. Still, keeping a clean sheet against Norwich last time out should give the team renewed hope!

    Everton Recent form:
    Everton are in great form; it’s 8 games unbeaten in the league, with just that surprise League cup defeat against Leeds going against them. And their games are seeing plenty of goals – they are the 7th highest scorers at home, and 3rd away. They have also let in 14 (in the league) so the prospects are for an entertaining game ...

    Recent form table – last 8 games:
    Everton sit 5th in the table for the last 8 games with 3 wins and 5 draws; only they and Man City are undefeated in this period. Reading are 18th with those five draws, above Saints and QPR. And just above us are Swansea and Wigan who haven’t done too much in last 8 games either ...


    THE BOSS – the current manager of Everton:
    The long-serving Everton boss is David Moyes. He held a long career as a defender – over 550 appearances for Celtic and Preston. He then became a coach at Preston, then assistant manager, then manager itself in 1998. He took over Everton in 2002, and is one of the longest one-club serving managers in the game today. His stability is reflected by being the recipient of the 2003, 2005 and 2009 League Managers Association “Manager of the Year”. He is also on the Committee for the League Managers Association in an executive capacity. He is currently the third longest serving manager of a single club, his Everton ‘reign’ lasting over 10 and a half years. All this and still around 50 years old ...




    WEB SITES

    Official Everton Club Web Site:
    http://www.evertonfc.com


    Unofficial individual club Web Sites – daib0’s suggestion:
    Everton’s Toffee Talk.



    OPPOSING FANS SECTION

    Rivalries and the Everton fan base:
    Liverpool, Manchester United and Tranmere ...
    The club's supporters are known as Evertonians. Most fans obviously come from the North West of England, and primarily from Merseyside and Cheshire. Everton also have many fans who travel from North Wales and Ireland.


    Famous Fans:
    Famous celebrities who support Everton include –
    Ian Astbury – singer (The Cult), Matt Dawson – rugby (England player), JohnHurt – actor, Paul McCartney – singer and composer (ex-Beatle), John Parrot – snooker player, Jenny Seagrove – actress, Freddie Starr – comedian, Austin Healey – rugby player, Tom O’Conor – comedian, Claire Sweeney – actress/singer/television personality, Clive Tyldesley – sports/football commentator, Mike Parry – broadcaster (ex-Talk Sport), Sylvester Stallone - actor (Rocky Balboa).

    Nicknames and Mascots etc.
    Everton's most widely recognised nickname is "The Toffees" or "The Toffeemen", which came about after Everton had moved to Goodison. The most plausible explanation seems to a local toffee shop, named Mother Noblett's, which advertised and sold sweets, including the Everton Mint. Sometimes they are referred to as ‘The Blues’. Once, a long time ago, when Everton wore a black strip they were known as "The Black Watch". Occasionally used names in the past included ‘scientific’ and ‘the school of science’ (both in the 1920s), and since the 1990s the ‘Dogs of War’ and ‘The People’s Club’.
    “Mr Toffee”, not surprisingly, has been the club mascot. Has been? Yes, now it’s Everton FC. Changy, named after the beer company that adorns Everton’s shirt – and ‘he’ replaced Mr Toffee as Everton’s official mascot. Poor Mr Toffee. Where is he now? I hear he came to a sticky end…


    MATCH DAY EXPECTATIONS

    Attendances:
    No change – Reading’s average home gate this season is 24,080 – and we’re 99.5% of capacity levels so no chance of moving up the attendance tables – we’re 17th in that.

    Squads and Team News:
    Not available yet - please add any news in your posts and comments - one of the most important things to add here before kick-off!


    They said it!

    Reading manager Brian McDermott said after the Norwich game: “We could have nicked it but there wasn't much in it, it was a tight game. Nobody has heavily beaten us, by definition in the six drawn games each of them could have gone our way. We're closer to the teams in front of us now and we look to forward to putting on a performance against Everton.”

    Reading goalie Adam Federici, on his return between the posts: “We always look forward to the next game and Everton are a team very much in form at the minute but I think for all the fans who watch the game when you come to the Madejski Stadium it is a tough game for them."

    Everton manager David Moyes on the weekend ‘comeback’ win: " I thought we played quite well in the first half but found ourselves a goal down, and fortunate not to be two down. We didn't deserve that with our possession. We kept going and the players showed tremendous character to come from a goal behind. Maybe our pressure told a little in the end."

    Everton’s Marouane Fellaini on his raw ambition: “I want to play [in the] Champions League, if it's possible with Everton. But if not, with another team. But I want to play [in the] Champions League. I begin now to my fifth season at Everton. This will be one of my last. I've seen everything. In January or at the end of the season I would look for another club or league."



    SCORE PREDICTIONS

    My own verdict:
    I feel we’ll get a win, we need to keep home form up. And a clean sheet for once! Reading 2 Everton 0 – OK, blind faith!

    What do others say?
    The Oddschecker site, listing nearly all the major betting companies, shows Everton are easy favourites to take an away victory, not much money to be gained there. A Reading victory sees odds of nearly 3/1, and a draw not far off 3/1 either. In my opinion, you might make some money this week!


    FOR THE RECORD

    Last Encounter
    Tuesday 1st March, 2011 - Goodison Park
    F.A. Cup 5th Round
    Everton 0 Reading 1


    Head-to-head Reading and Everton

    Played in total 8 times: 2 Reading wins / 5 Everton wins / 1 draw

    Best Reading victory: August 2007 – Reading 1 Everton 0 // March 2011 – Everton 0 Reading 1 (FA Cup)

    Best Everton victory: November 1930 – Reading 0 Everton 1 // December 2006 – Reading 0 Everton 2

    Also interesting: Mar 1931 – Everton 3 Reading 2


    THIS DATE in history

    Reading has been seen 14 times on this day, and we’ve never drawn! The good record shows W 10 and L 4. Sopme great games as well: back in 1883 we beat South Reading 4-0 in the FA Cup, in 1928 we beat WBA 5-3, and six years later beat Bristol Rovers 5-1. The only real blemish was a 1-7 drubbing by Chesterfield in 1979. We haven’t played on this date since 2001, when we beat Welling Utd 1-0 in the FA Cup.

    How do Everton do? But Everton also hold a good record on this day. They’ve played 15 times and their results read: W8 D3 L4. Best victory was 4-0 v Stoke City in 1984. They’ve never lost by more than two goals. Last time out was in 2002, and a Premier home victory against Blackburn 1-0.


    For those who’d like to read a really detailed match presentation please pop over to the specialist Reading FC forum ‘Royals Rendezvous’ where you have even more sections covered and some of these current sections expanded (this present article is simply a resume) and many a photo up too … http://royalsrendezvous.co.uk/topic/9760599/1 We even have a separate thread dedicated to your views.

    Here’s to a good game, all comments welcome! Any snippet copied will be fully credited (and thanked) with your user name and the forum! ...

    daib0
     
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  2. SaintLapras

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    Come on Reading!
     
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  3. Tobes

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    We've lost only 1 out of our last 20 PL league games & have been playing with plenty of style & confidence.

    However, still a tricky fixture for us & whilst I'd love 3 points, I think I'd settle for 1.
     
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    Toffee here,

    Good match preview, I didn't realise you'd gone 5 draws out of the last 6, I feel your pain with the blues having drawn 4 games in a row (2-2 Wigan, 1-1 QPR, 2-2 Liverpool, 2-2 Fulham) before our win over Sunderland at the weekend. We've been adequate away from home in the league with 2 wins, 3 draws and 1 defeat ( Aston Villa - win 3-1, West Brom - lose 2-0, Swansea - win 3-0, Wigan - draw 2-2, QPR - draw 1-1, Fulham - draw 2-2 ) so far this season so hopefully we can get a win against your lot next weekend.

    I'll answer those questions you put on the Everton board...

    A] What are currently the strongest areas of YOUR squad, and who should Reading individually look out for / fear most?

    There's a lot of talent in our squad at the moment with this arguably being our best side since our cup winners' cup side in 1985 so we certainly don't fear playing anyone. This season a lot of the good has been our attacking threat which is a stark contrast to recent season when we've had a solid defence but not quite so prolific at the other end.

    Our left hand side is vital to creating chances, despite a dip in form over the last few matches from Pienaar, his understanding with Leighton Baines gives us the most lethal left sided partnership in the league. it's the reason that so far they have 3 goals (Baines 2, Pienaar 1) and 5 assists (Baines 2, Pienaar 3) between them so they always carry a threat.

    The obvious threat is from Marouane Fellaini who is a fantastic footballer. His technique is second to none and his footballing intelligence is great too. This year and the back end of last season he has played in the hole behind the striker which means he's scored more goals than last season already. His physical strength and chest control means its almost impossible to get the ball from him meaning he can hold it up and bring other players into the fold high up the pitch.

    Other honourable mentions go to Jelavic and Mirallas. Jelavic ended his 3 match 'drought' on Saturday which in itself shows how prolific he is when some of our fans were referring to 3 games without a goal a drought and even though he hasn't hit the ground running he's still scored 5 goals in 11 premier league games due to his spectacular movement and one touch finishing. He's the best Everton striker I've seen having watched Everton. Mirallas is a fast , tricky winger bought from Olympiakos in the summer for £6m and thus far he's been great with his directness a rare trait these days and a breath of fresh air compared to our other players. However he went off with a hamstring pull over the weekend so it's yet to be seen how serious that is and if he will make it for this game.

    B] Any young stars coming through the academy that we should keep an eye on, now or in the future? Any thoughts on the new U21 league?

    Well, I'm sure most of you will have heard of Ross Barkley by now so we have high hopes for him and he is our biggest prospect, he had a long term injury about two years ago which held him back and has played for the first team a handful of times. He's currently on loan to Sheffield Wednesday and is receiving rave reviews from owls fans recently after 4 goals in as many games. He is on a month by month loan which has been renewed once already and he's our biggest talent since a certain Manchester United striker. He's a creative attacking midfielder who plays in the hole behind the striker.

    There's others but Barkley is by far the biggest talent, in terms of strikers we have Greek u21 striker Apostolos Vellios who got his first appearance of the season at the weekend coming on as a sub and has a few goals from last year too. Another is Connor McAleny who is a striker in the Michael Owen mould and hasn't had many appearances in his Everton career. Shane Duffy is a promising central defender too who played well when he came in last season for a run of 3 or 4 games when we had injury problems last season.

    I don't think anyone is really against the new under 21 league as the old system was a bit of a joke. Playing competitive games and having something to show for it at the end of the season if you do well is only good for youngsters development in my opinion.

    C] Well, it’s a most impressive start to your season. Realistically, where do you hope Everton might finish if all goes more-or-less well?

    The bare minimum is 6th place, despite having a lot of competition with the likes of Arsenal, Tottenham and Newcastle ( don't think I missed anyone else? ;) ) , anything less would be a disappointment. Last season we finished 7th after an average season and we have improved a lot signing quality players and getting rid of deadwood from January of last season. 4th is not out of the question though with Arsenal seemingly poorer than they were last season and AVB not showing a lot of conviction as Tottenham boss whilst Newcastle haven't been great either though dark horses are Fulham and West Brom. Obviously we're only a quarter of the way into the season so there's a long way to go yet and anything can happen.

    D] How strong do you see the general level of the premier this season, and any general opinions of Reading FC and our current football - either for or against (you can be honest!). Any words of advice for the ‘newbies’ in the premier scene?!

    Apart from the gap between the top 3 and the rest then it's fairly competitive. As I said for the previous question there's 4 or 5 teams going for 4th place this season and then beyond that I think it's fairly even and anyone from yourselves to Stoke or Swansea could sneak into the top half (as long as you get your act together. However there does seem to be a bit of a gap emerging between 17th and the bottom three already which is a worry for you anyway. I've seen plenty worse teams than Reading in the premier league over the last ten years though.

    I can't say I've seen a lot of Reading matches this season, the few I can remember is the Arsenal match in the cup, the Liverpool match at Anfield and the Tottenham match at your place. I thought you were quite defensively frail but you do have good strikers in Pogbrenyak and Le Fondre, I even think Roberts is decent as well though outspoken. And surprisingly, I've been quite impressed with Danny Guthrie as I didn't rate him much at Newcasltle.

    I don't know what your views are in general on McDermott but you're only going to go one way with a poor defence. it's very rare that attacking teams that come up dont go straight back down. The major rule should be to build the foundations based on a strong defence and then build the rest of the team around that when you come to the premier league. For example, West Ham have a solid defence and Big Sam sets them out as a stable organised side difficult to break down which is why they have more chance of staying up than yourselves and Southampton though they have spent a lot more.



    Sorry if that's too long :emoticon-0104-surpr , I hope we can get a win here and I think our attacking threat will be too much for you but I can easily see a draw so those odds at 3-1 for a draw are quite tempting.

    Reading 2-4 Everton
    Guthrie
    Pogbrenyak

    Jelavic x2
    Pienaar
    Jagielka

    Best of luck.
     
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    Amazing comeback, Shogun, I think that is the most complete return of info that I have ever received. Delighted, in fact I going to leave you a PM with an idea ...
     
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    Toffee here I quite like Reading as a club and would like to see you climb up the table a bit but hopefully you can wait until after the Everton fixture eh?? lol

    I dont think we will lose this one so I am going to predict a 0-2 win for us but note we dont seem to be able to keep a clean sheet recently so I may be a bit optimistic here :undecided:

    I wouldnt be suprised to see a draw though either tbh...
     
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    One for the recent memory: 2007 - Reading, Everton & Stallone


    BBC News

    Stallone greeted by Everton fans
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/merseyside/6261167.stm

    The Rocky and Rambo star Sylvester Stallone took to the football pitch at Goodison Park before watching Everton play Reading. Stallone, 60, got a rousing reception from the 30,000 plus crowd on Sunday as he held up a blue-and-white Everton scarf and punched the air on the field. He said cheers from the 30,000-strong crowd turned him into an Everton fan.

    Stallone is a friend of Blues shareholder Robert Earl and is in the UK to promote his latest film. Rocky Balboa is his sixth film in the series.

    The original Rocky, released in 1976, told the story of a small-time boxer from Philadelphia who gets a shot at the world heavyweight title.

    Speaking at the match, Stallone said he thought David Beckham would be a "big hit" in the United States when he starts playing for LA Galaxy. "That's it! We've decided to steal your entire sport," he said. "We're bringing it west. No, actually I think it's fantastic, history repeats itself, maybe the seventies was too soon, with Pele and Beckenbauer, this could be great for everybody."
     
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    Good links they are Shogun, I'd never come across that page before (and I investigate quite a lot!) ...
     
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    Full respect from Reading's captain:



    Sky Sports

    Reading skipper remains upbeat
    http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11673/8247601

    Reading skipper Jobi McAnuff believes confidence in the camp remains high despite their poor start to the season. Brian McDermott's side are 18th in the Premier League going into this weekend's game with Everton but McAnuff insists they are focused on climbing the table.

    "We're here now and we can only affect what we can do. We can't be too worried about anything that's said in the press," he told the club's official website. "If you start to do that then you lose focus about what we're trying to do. I'm a big believer in focusing on what you've got to do today. It's a great club to be at - it's important not to lose sight of that. We've got a great set of lads and a great set of staff and we all enjoy coming into work every day."

    McAnuff admits they have a tough task against Everton at the Madejski Stadium on Saturday and drew parallels between the two clubs.

    "I guess that you can draw similarities from over the years. They've never been a club that's gone out and spent money on six or seven players. They bring value to the club and so do we," he added. "David Moyes has done a great job there and he keeps producing the good as they are still performing well. There's a great continuity to the club, and the few players that are added in the summer seem to integrate in well. They've had a fantastic start to this season and they're playing some great stuff. On their current form, they're a side challenging to break into the top four."
     
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    TICKETS - Reading

    Reading FC Official Site
    Reading vs Everton - Saturday 17th November 2012, 3pm
    All tickets have now sold out for this fixture - but to be put on a waiting list, call 0118 968 1006.


    TICKETS - Everton

    Notice from Everton FC Official Site says: "This fixture is sold out"
     
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    Wolfy's FFF - Previews, three matches including Reading v Everton - http://royalsrendezvous.co.uk/topic/9763413/1 He's actually a ** cough cough ** Liverpool supporter and forum mod but also contributes on RR, is known for being a fair man!
     
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    He's wrong about our formation, we'll play 4-4-1-1, with Fellaini playing off Jelavic.

    He's also wrong when he says Jelavic must be stopped when the balls at his feet - if he gets the ball at his feet in the box, it's too late.....:)

    Hope you enjoy the game (despite losing heavily obviously ;) ) Good luck for the season, after 5 pm tomorrow that is.
     
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    Howard, Baines, Jagielka, Heitinga, Coleman, Pienaar, Hitzlsperger, Fellaini, Osman, Naismith, Jelavic

    Subs: Mucha, Oviedo, Distin, Duffy, Vellios, Junior, Kennedy

    -----------------------Howard---------------------
    ----Coleman---Jagielka----Heitinga---Baines----
    -------------Hitzelsperger---Osman---------------
    --------Naismith-----Fellaini-----Pienaar----------
    -----------------------Jelavic-----------------------

    Anichebe, Hibbert and Gibson injured as well as Neville.
     
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    this half in a nutshell...

    Everton dominant, Reading can't defend and Martin Atkinson is ****e.
     
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    Well done reading, got the first win in there <ok>
     
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    Cheers there, but my, we was lucky, as they say! First half ABYSMAL, ha-ha!!
     
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    Wow! If ever the phrase "Game of two halves" was applicable! Everton were quality first 45 and we showed them too much respect. Second half, we did what we did best last season; attack withg pace and purpose. Not many teams can live with our fitness levels when we really apply ourselves. Bit like Arsenal in the first half. If we hadn't been so low on confidence, I believe we would've held out for the win.

    Anyway, cracking game. All the best Everton for the rest of the season except when we come to Goodison! :D
     
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