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Sir David Attenborough warns of climate 'crisis moment'

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    Give it up mate,
    You went from claiming climate scientists agree with you to sharing an image from mother Jones.

    The chemical composition of Neptune's upper atmosphere and the temperatures were not unexpected.
    That you are using discoveries in 1989 that today we have instruments that can take the same measurements from Lagrange points shows you are way out of your depth.
    Perhaps the subsequent research from 25 years ago that tells us Neptune's winds are driven by internal warming from its core might help you overcome your obsession
    https://ui.adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1991JGR....9618921P/abstract

    Quite why you would choose a gas giant to compare to earth is frankly bizarre.
     
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  3. Big Ern

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    No, I said no scientist with any credibility would say that they could definitively prove that we were the cause of climate change, and none will, they will simly produce the some of the same stuff you have, without the utter bullshit that you've made up.
    As to Neptune, and once again you state scientific supposition as fact to show how imformed you are, but totally ignored at least 3 other legitimate hypotheses that could also explain it. 1.) low temperature viscosity, 2.) size, & 3) rotational speed. Unfortunately for your hypothesis and the following 3 I've given, Jupiter's existence ****s them all.
    Maybe you can get your planet guru to explain it.
    https://www.livescience.com/something-strange-inside-neptune.html here's some upto dat ecscience on Neptune, rather than some from the old millenium.
    keep going, I find it an amusing diversion.
     
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    Let's start with your scientist of any credibility because so far you've dismissed two NASA directors of science, the scientist who first gave us the hockey stick and the head of climate science research at a big UK university.

    As for Neptune,
    I didn't give a hypothesis, I gave evidence of its energy budget showing it's atmosphere must be subjected to significant internal warming ( unlike the inner rocky planets. It's clear you didn't even look at the paper I shared.

    Now look at what you shared
    'We can only measure temperatures in the outermost layers," said Michael Wong, a planetary scientist at the University of California, Berkeley, via email. In doing so we find that Neptune isn't actually hotter than Uranus in real terms — they're essentially at the same temperature. But since Neptune receives less solar illumination because it's farther from the sun, this shouldn't be the case.
    What this similarity in temperature suggests is that Neptune is warmer in terms of how much heat it emits in comparison to the amount of heat it absorbs from the sun. "Voyager's measurements show Neptune emits more than twice as much heat as it absorbs from the sun, '
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    "The extra heat source on Neptune [and Jupiter and Saturn] is largely due to gravitational contraction," said Joshua Tollefson, also of the University of California, Berkeley. "As the planet slowly gravitationally contracts, the material falling inward changes its potential energy into thermal energy, which is then released upwards out of the planet."

    'Earth is a very inefficient heat engine, and it doesn't give you much bang for the buck. One reason is that it has a solid surface that dissipates wind energy by friction, whereas the gas giants do not, so that is one reason why all the giant planets have much stronger winds than Earth does.'

    So I ask again, why when we know Neptune is a gas giant and therefore behaves differently to a rocky planet and we are unable to penetrate below the top layers of the atmosphere do you think this is relevant?
    It isn't, what's relevant is that we can know that the planet emits more heat that it receives. For earth we know the planet emits less heat than it receives and that the heat is trapped in the lower atmosphere and oceans while the upper atmosphere cools. We also know that the chemical composition of the atmosphere has changed and through spectroscopy know how those chemicals affect the ability of the atmosphere to retain heat. These are facts.
     
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  5. Commachio

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    This is from a few pages back, about me splatteing dogs.

    ****ing vermin in parts of the world.

    UK, love them.
    Some other countries eat.
    Some they are just vermin.
     
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    But you splattered them?
     
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    Yeah, just ran the ****ers over..Why not?

    I avoided snakes more than a dog.
     
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    Ok.
     
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    Nice bloke.
     
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    Why would you want to run dogs over ?
     
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    <laugh><laugh> thisejust show just how naive how this board is.

    They are ****ing vermin in some parts of the world, and there is no way i'm gonna swerve to avoid one in a pick up.

    Bump bump.


    Don't get all excited lads, the rest of the world don't love their little dogs as much as you.
     
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    It's just a weird flex. I mean, most people gloat about buying a new car, not running over a dog.
     
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    Welshie Chavcunt fanboy dickhead

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    This is exactly the image I have.

    What a ****ing nutter. <laugh><laugh>
     
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    stfu with your patronising bollocks <laugh> I've been to countries where dogs are considered vermin, and I expect a few others on here have too. The only people that wilfully run dogs over are ****s.
     
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    This ^^^
     
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    Reminds me of that time I was on holiday in Saudi and stoned a woman to death for adultery.
     
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  19. Commachio

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    Well why?

    Why would i swerve to avoid one and risk injury to people or crash?
     
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  20. PINKIE

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    So you accidentally ran over a dog then ?
     
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