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Summer Transfer Window

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  1. ValleyGraduate12

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    Agree. We needed a winger this summer. Narsingh doesn't cut it for me either. We haven't got any good wingers in our squad, and haven't, for some time.
     
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  2. Stumpy

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    Its a very mehhhh! window for me. I like our signings but not so much the players who made way for them. Getting rid of the two players who saved us last year along with weakening our defence could kill us this year.

    I dont much like bringing in loan players either. Developing these players for other clubs could end up costing our own players. Abraham could end up replacing Ayew and Sanches, Carroll of Fer. I don't like that at all, we should be concentrating on developing our own players only, not a couple of rich clubs assets.

    All of this will make sense, or not, in the long run but one thing I cant make any sense of is letting Kingsley go without replaceing him. Defence is a critical area and we needed to strengthen it, instead of doing this we've weaken it even more than it was. With Kingsley we were pretty bare at the back but now we're naked and vulnerable and the very next injury suffered by any of our defenders could be our undoing even at this early stage. I've read the rumour surrounding Yadim, if that was his name. Not getting the papers in on time is so amateur.

    All we can look forward to is surviving until January and hoping common sense will prevail and can get a couple of defenders, because as we are, I don't think we can make it intact to the end of the season and we could well be swapping places with Cardiff.
     
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  3. swanseaandproud

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    If they are past their best then what about Bony.....Same applies to him
     
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    I disagree with that simply because, yes we are developing them as Barnsley are doing for us with Mcburnie and Leeds last year did for us with Bartley. But the most important part of the loan is for me, we wouldn't be able to afford the quality that the 2 loan signings could bring to us. So for me it is a win win. The players you mentioned and not here to be developed, they are current starting PL players and if the loan signings bring more quality and put a shift in for us every week I don't see a problem with it. It is 2 players not 5 or 6.

    As for the the Kingsley debacle, well it is a total pile of dog ****e and it doesn't surprise me that we have been incompetent enough to let it happen.
     
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    Jenkins says we have had a good window........Yes if you dont want to spend money on players we need then he has a result, But not many agree with him including the media....It was a poor window for strengthening the defence the main cause of our poor seasons since 2015 and when we sold Ash we have been in chaos...
     
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  6. Bob the slob

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    With Bartley out until January the destruction of the defence is even more disappointing.

    A point on Abraham.
    I'm not in favour of loans within the league.
    If a nailed on chance arrives for the player in the last 60 seconds of the last game of the season & the goal would keep us up but also deny his home club the league title and the player missed, what conclusion would be drawn?
     
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    I get the feeling we will play wingless most games with a 4 - 3 - 3 , how Clement " Transferred " this summer dictates my thoughts on the subject . I also don't think we will play 5 at the back to much from here .
     
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  8. ValleyGraduate12

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    I never was his biggest fan but it would be madness to try and not sign Chico now. Even if it's just for the rest of the season.

    We are stuffed at the back now, and one more injury in the defence would be nothing short of a huge disaster.

    Utterly moronic to sell Kingsley (a good LB) before signing another defender.
     
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    With us usually playing one striker then i think Bony will be a bit part player as we have paid £8m too chelsea to give their player game time.....Jenkins will want his money worth for sure......Unless tammy gets injured then Bony may become the No1 striker but apart from that we will see bony in cup games and the odd late sub...
     
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  10. seabreeze

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    Problem being , Kingsley played under a lot of managers .... unused really . Gotta say something .
     
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    Chico on a short term contract would have been ideal - he's fit, not long finished his season, Swansea to the core.
    Benoît Trémoulinas or Juan Fuentes- possible left back cover.
     
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    I'd love the " Return of Chico " Episode 2 ...
     
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    That they're ****ng retarded selling him and leaving us alarmingly short at the back.
     
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    They all didn't sell him , but they all didn't use him .
     
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    Point is he was here if needed. When he did play he was both safe and secure and I didn't miss a heartbeat if he started or came on as a sub. Now its different, if Olsson gets injured we have no specialist cover at all, just a midfielder, Clucas, being asked to fill in as emergency cover.

    If Clucas was any good at left-back then surely, at some point in his career, he'd have played there, but guess what? he hasn't. Full-back is a specialised position, same as right-back. That's why both full-back positions are usually taken by, hmmm, let me think, FULL-BACKS.

    Clucas is not a full-back, Fer is not a full-back, both are midfielders being asked to fill in if needed. This is the attitude of teams in league 1 or 2, teams who don't have the money to field a big enough squad, so they improvise because they have to, to survive.

    In league 1 or 2 they can get away with that, but we are a cash rich premier league outfit expected to compete against the absolute elite in football. Our absolute basic requirement in order to function in in this league let alone compete would be to accumulate a squad of players who are fit-for-purpose and not gamble with the clubs position in the premier league by failing to build a squad able to compete.

    In our squad we have 1 bona-fide striker who hasn't played for 2 years backed up by a rent boy who has never played football at this level.

    In midfield we have a plethora of average players who wouldn't instil fear into a lowly league 2 side.

    The star of our midfield is a rent-boy who has failed to live up to the potential he garnered at Benfica, his home. Outside of his home town he has done nothing but fade off the bench and into the U21 squad. He is the player we are looking to to ignite our season, some chance.

    We have a flimsy defence with no cover for injuries or suspensions other than the overflow from the multitude of midfielders we have.

    The summer transfer window has completely changed the emphasis of our season ahead away from improvement and challenging for a mid-table honours to one hope, prayer and survival. We should not be in this position, we've been conned and sold down the line.

    How confident do you feel right now?
     
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  16. seabreeze

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    Fer is our 3rd string RB and will probably never have to play there again . He hasn't played RB for probably 4 years and was asked to play it at an injury laden time when the whole team was in tatters . To base probably just over a hundred minutes on how Fer would preform at RB is a judgement built on sand , much like judgements on VDR . As for Kingsley , he didn't seem to impress 4 or 5 managers and Clement must have a plan in place to take care of a Olsson injury . Be it Clucas or Naughton moving over and Rangel or Fer taking the right side . In Clement I Trust .P S ... Apparently the McBurnie loan has been rejected by the Football League .
     
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    Not knocking Fer Breezy, just saying he is a midfielder, not a full-back, same as Clucas and so should never have been asked to cover at RB. He had too simply because we were too tight to buy the cover everyone knew we needed in the summer.

    This year its doubly bad, we still haven't covered ourselves on the right, exposing Fer yet again, but on top of that we let the only cover we had on the left go for a song which could expose Clucas too. This puts unfair pressure on Fer, Clucas and the team and its because we have not only not covered ourselves at FB but have managed to weaken an already fragile defence. Our lack of activity in this area is tempting fate
     
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    At one time he was a RB though ....just not with us . Every manager we've had that has Fer on the squad seems to see Fer as a utility player. And remember , were talking 3 choice ... its a non event really .
     
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    What do you say about Clucas though Breezy, he's number two. Also you have to remember we have cup games to play too, who will play where during those games?
     
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    Maybe McBurnie ...lol , can't wait to see who's at fault on that " Keystone Cop " event . Maybe Clement will move Naughton over as the #2 LB and use Rangel with Fer as a back up at RB ... really , were all guessing aren't we . Besides " The best defence is a good offence ( attack ) "..and I think we finally have an attack to relieve the siege we've been under at defence . We'll see soon enough Stump ..cheers
     
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