Off Topic The "Discuss Anything Else" Thread

knobhead

 

You will own nothing and be happy. Wef are pulling the strings. Kneel starmers one of them also.

 

totally agree regarding the so called democracy we hav3 , it’s a farce designed to keep the tories in power via the shire votes , so you end up with stinking majorities with barely a fifth of the voting population .......need PR

 

Didnt some smart arse once say there’s no point having a mind if your not able to change it?

 

It would be hilarious if it wasnt so damned important right now. Those who make their living from political satire need to retrain sharpish.

 

We won’t need a political system. Before long we’ll have one world government after all the central banks have bankrupted western economies. Most people fear the future because to contemplate it is horrific. They’d rather live in denial.

 

Pity they didn’t have that in 1933!

 

President von Hindenberg had made Hitler the Chancellor in January 1933. In March 1933, the National Socialist Party won less than half the vote in the proportional representation Reichstag election so they formed a coalition with the National People’s Party and then passed the Enabling Act that gave Hitler the power to make laws without the Reichstag. The National Socialist Party won the November 1933 election after Hitler banned all other political parties.

We are just not allowed to refer to the National Socialist Party by that name in the revisionist version of history. Nobody wants reminding that Germany’s downfall was precipitated by the World War reparations and that Hitler’s domestic policies were successful in reviving the country’s fortunes.

That ends my ‘O’ Level history lesson. Somebody will be along in a minute to tell me it is different on Wikipedia.

 

I think Stick is totally right, she was completely out of her depth. The first time I really took note of her was when she gave a ridiculous and dangerous reply to Marr when he asked her what she felt about Britains going to fight in Ukraine. She seems thick and alongside that is that she has no filters. I worry that a great University should produce such an incompetent person. I then ask why did more than half of Con MPs vote for her (not that I like Sunak either)? What has happened to Education in the last 50 years that it produced such idiots.

 

Don’t worry, Bustino, as Rory Bremner famously said…”There’ll be another one along in a minute!”
How about Hunt versus Starmer ? Frightening!

 

So in a dead end city in Wales called Bangor, you still favour Communism like in a dead end city in East Yorkshire called Hull? I am sure that Communism would revitalise both cities by reducing the rest of the country to the same level of poverty for all. It worked for Russia.

 

Nobody outside of their party membership ever voted for any Prime Minister. Only local constituents vote for an MP. Which of their MPs a party chooses to be the Prime Minister has always been entirely internal to that party.

Clearly you are one of those deluded people that thinks we could just carry on with the Bank of England producing money out of a hat at zero interest rates, fuelling the incessant rise in property and other asset values. We live in a country with a zombie economy with many companies kept afloat by not having to service their debts.

Conservative MPs are currently in the process of committing electoral suicide through disunity that will leave us with some sort of coalition of the Left that the markets will destroy, a generation of stagnation, no economic growth and a fantasy Nanny State where a handful of Marxist unions dictate policy. Given the increasing numbers of my generation that are opting out (becoming “economically inactive”) they are going to need lots more illegal immigrants to make this Nanny State work. They can all live with Gary Lineker and Gary Neville.

 

More facts not in evidence from Communism corner. Ten seconds on Google would have got you to the Wikipedia page for the 2019 General Election and it appears that electoral turnout was 67 per cent.

Since all constituencies are created to contain as many voters as any other there should be approximately as many voters in Islington North, London as there are in Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire. In fact there were 75,162 in Islington (34,603 voted for Corbyn) and 86,665 in Aylesbury (32,737 voted for Butler).

In local government elections, turnout is chronic (often less than a fifth) because of the party political system. If all candidates in local elections had to live in the ward they wish to represent and follow the wishes of their electorate (or lose their seats), perhaps more people would vote and we would have more accountable local government. Who knows, they could have a “non-binary” Mayor for a short while in Hull.

 

Same ****e in here I see. QM do you disappear now the flat season is over?

 

The flat season is not over but why would you let facts get in the way of a good old grumble, Nass? You could just post an opposing point of view or ignore mine.

Generally, I do not post as much during the slow old plodder season, the exceptions being if I receive any information about a slow old plodder that others might be interested in knowing; or during Cheltenham week if I am sat watching the quickest of the slow old plodders in the pub.

 

Sadly, Oddy, you appear to be hoist on your own petard here.

The first chart that you cite shows that GDP actually fell in 2008 and 2009 under the Brown administration as a result of the financial collapse and Brown’s bailout of the banks. From 2010 to 2014 under the Tory/Lib Dem coalition GDP rose, nearly back to 2007 levels. George Osborne’s ham-fisted attempts at reining in public spending (“austerity”) are not borne out by the facts as public spending actually rose by £100bn during the coalition years as the “zero-based spending review” realised nothing following on from Brown’s massive public spending spree.

Of course National Debt has sky-rocketed as we have had zero interest rates and the Magic Money Tree courtesy of the Bank of England since 2009, added to which we had Bolshevik Boris and Socialist Sunak throwing money around during the pandemic. Trussonomics would have been one plan for tackling the problem but she and her Chancellor mismanaged the timing and presentation of their plan and much of it has now unravelled.