Off Topic The Environmental & Pollution Thread

I’ve not heard of these heat pumps before..........Sounds interesting. Is this a new phenomenon recently developed.? I’ve obviously heard of the wind turbines although I didn’t know they couldn’t operate properly with winds over 30 miles an hour..ish. Or have I got that wrong.?

 

Are you extracting the wee wee Beddo? I've a feeling you haven't got it wrong {again). Not new but certainly underdeveloped technology. A simple search brings up this:-

The heat pump was described by Lord Kelvin in 1853 and developed by Peter Ritter von Rittinger in 1855. After experimenting with a freezer, Robert C. Webber built the first direct exchange ground-source heat pump in the late 1940s.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geothermal_heat_pump.
May I respectfully suggest you do your own (inset your choice of expletive here) research.

 

Actually that's their one advantage. And that is dubious too, because the stations have to have pressurised tanks and at present they can only cope with 7 cars per hour.
EDIT later: Sorry, meant to say that they do have a small advantage with range at present. But they have many, many disadvantages. When I've eaten my evening meal I'll do a pros and cons of either. But look at the previously posted video on hydrogen from Real Engineering.

 

no Im not I promise............I have never heard of heat being taken from seawater before.

 

Did it but had to use a UK postcode, my Dutch one isn't acceptable.

 

This is being done in The Hague https://www.c40.org/case_studies/the-hague-uses-seawater-to-heat-homes NB it's dated 2011 If you want an update over to you, lets see what you can find. Bit more here https://www.ehpa.org/about/news/article/the-worlds-largest-natural-district-heat-pump/

 

this makes me want to bang my head against a wall. Not because of you St B, but because the message is just not been received out there.

Plastic can be recycled no matter what colour it is.

The media are a disgrace as they are misinforming everyone. It is time they started to turn on the governments and focus on the real solution which is getting recycling done correctly, following better education (or help) for the public. It’s really not difficult

 

he is good, but I still take exception to his mistake (or deliberate oversight) on plastic bottles. If he had played fair in that I’d have had more respect for him.

yes, too low a % of plastic bottles become recycled back into plastic bottles, but they do end up back recycled in other plastic applications.

See above post. If government laid down the law and helped people learn how and what to recycle, we could recycle it all.

 

There is not an overuse of plastic (yes in some Areas like toy packaging, but there should be more use overall), but there is an under recycling of plastic. Change human behaviour before we throw the baby out with the bath water

 

Their CEO got panned at a packaging show about a month after that announcement 2 years back. He later came out and admitted they couldn’t have a plastic free supermarket as the plastic is too important

 

Am I mistaken.........somewhere didn’t I read that plastic bottles were going to have some sort of charge put about them. (I assumed like it used to be with glass bottles lemonade and the like)? I also understood that more recycling plants were being set up for plastic in general.

 

Thanks mate. Do you want me to slit my throat now?

 

Not particularly mate, there's much more humane ways.



I wasn't necessarily advocating it to be honest, just raising the point - which I notice everyone has ignored.

 

Now you ****ing tell me. What am I supposed to do with all this ****ing bloo………………….

 

Write '4-0 haha skate ****s' on the mirror with it?




Worse ways to go imo.

 

US town rejects solar panels.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...W03gpoC4XntCNHWbUunuip0Z3iiRfLWWeTnD1CHyhN3D8
Wind farm offshore Dorset refused (2015)
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-34188026

 

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“And cull everyone over say, 75?”

That should be done before every General Election to counter the biased reporting in their newspaper of choice.

I didn't:-
Card bearing comrades excepted! And gobby old farts who post ****e on here.

 

Doesn't have to be seawater either. It can be river water. In fact, preferably river water. 1] Non corrosive water. 2] Feeds the oceans anyway. 3] Many, many people live on floodplains, hence they live in the vicinity of a river. Because of our living habits we are actually warming our rivers. Why not take the heat back out. Super efficient. I won't mention percentages because it may blow your mind. I'll just repost a video on heat pumps from Robert Llewellyn's Fully Charged Show from Youtube. You will almost certainly see why I love heat pumps. Very old technology - Lord Kelvin era:

 

There was never a "charge" for glass bottles. A refund, yes. Yes, there once was recycling of glass before recycling was a buzzword.

 

Fair point, I stand corrected!