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The EU debate - Part III

Discussion in 'The Premier League' started by Jürgenmeiʃter, Sep 6, 2016.

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  1. Stan

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    Thank God David Davis has finally clarified what Brexit will mean for Britain – for a second there I was worried
    If 'Brexit means Brexit' is genius – and it is – this has less than nothing to do with the factual accuracy which is such a wickedly devalued currency in the context. 'John is John,' Tony Blair said of Prescott after he biffed the eggman, and that also was true

    http://www.independent.co.uk/voices...japan-america-barack-obama-what-a7228576.html
     
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    Perhaps we could all agree on some rules to keep it civil.
    Immediate and full answers to relevant questions.
    Links to the source of any claims made. That means going further than a newspaper report.
    No ridiculous memes. Start up a thread called 'unfunny memes' if you feel the need to post any.

    Perhaps the above will reduce the need for personal abuse
     
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  4. Stan

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    Match is better than the DM.
     
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    Sometimes you cant go much past a newspaper report as that starts a topic to discus.
     
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    Paul, grasp the spirit of the thread or take your tree hugging thoughts elsewhere.
     
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    <laugh>
     
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    They give direct quotes from what was actually said. Not just the selective spin from The Fail.

    Essentially, when the vote came it was a huge surprise. I expected the panic that followed, and made decent money from the pound crashing. What I didn't expect, nor did most others, is that this looks liable to drag on for years.

    None of us knew at that time that there was no Brexit plan! That the Gvt and those who advocated it didn't have a clue what to do next, as has been amply demonstrated by all the faffing around and meaningless 'Brexit means Brexit' soundbites.

    For the average person in the UK nothing has changed. So many are thinking 'what's all the panic about?' And are just carrying on. The problem is that the effects from events like this tend to have a lagging effect. For instance, the effects on prices from the weaker pound will take months, in some cases, to feed through to the shops. That's essentially what Morgan Stanley are saying, that the effects are delayed longer than expected. It doesn't mean they've gone away

    I suppose, in a nutshell, the initial shock of the result is now over. We are in a kind of limbo until it becomes much clearer what the Brexit plan is. What's achievable and what's not. What concessions both sides will have to make, etc, etc.

    There will almost certainly be a sharp reaction if and when article 50 is triggered. It's then that it actually becomes reality. Then when there's no going back. In the meantime, we'll just drift along with markets reacting to individual pieces of data.
     
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    So in reality the banks are looking to make bigger profit from when Brexit finally happens then shaft jobs, its what they re best at
     
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    The banks are always looking to make money. That's what they're there for!...
     
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    May's "Brexit means Brexit" honeymoon is coming to an end now that the Americans and Japanese, have had their say, neither of them being very supportive of the U.K.

    "Brexit means Brexit!" - that's very nice Teresa but could you please elaborate and get on with it.
     
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    But at the detriment of the whole country, not so sure.
     
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    Why is it at the detriment of the whole country? Please elaborate on this claim.
     
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    As long as you don't take anything related to Russia at face value they are pretty good.

    All news sources have a bias that you have to take into account as far as Im concerned
     
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    The investment banks are sharks! They eat anything and everything valuable that gets within swallowing distance.

    You have to work there to realise just how ruthless these people are in their pursuit of profit!
     
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    Brits are largely positive about the country’s future two months after the greatest political shake-up in decades, a new poll has revealed.

    More than nine in ten people who voted to leave the EU said they were optimistic about Britain’s fortunes in the run up to Brexit, with up to a third of Remain voters conceding the same.

    Brexit reaction by numbers:

    • 92% - Leave voters’ positive about Britain’s future

    • 32% - Remain voters’ optimistic about Britain’s future

    • 43% - Young people who have thought about emigrating

    • 5% - Pro-EU voters who feel less belonging to Europe
    The fresh findings come as the Government prepares to reveal its stratergy for Brexit - after newly-appointed ministers were summoned to Theresa May’s residence in Chequers to deliver plans for implementing EU-exit changes in their departments.

    Few details of what package the Conservative administration will be looking to negotiate with both the EU and countries around the world have yet emerged.

    http://m.huffpost.com/uk/entry/uk_57cc522fe4b01e35922b48e1
     
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    There's no need for personal abuse.
     
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    I asked you to give an example of a "brexit plan" and you ignored me.
    I think that is because it is unreasonable to have a "brexit plan". There are going to be negotiations with countries all round the world. We will want to get the best deal for Britain. We can't say we are going to do X.
    Anyway, who would do this plan? David Cameron? Would Theresa May stick to that plan? Some people may think you should because what's the point of having "a plan" if you are immediately going to tear it up when somebody else is Prime Minister. At every stage there are dozens of options and hundreds of countries involved. What's the plan for the Labour Party? What was the plan for Keith Vaz a couple of weeks ago? Plans are over rated when there are too many unknowns. Some people will plan because they don't want to act.
     
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