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Foreign Secretary Dominic Raab will not apologise for his party’s response to the London Bridge attack:
“Our duty is to minimise the risk that other families will be going through that anguish.”
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bloody sexist mr men
and what is the difference between mansplaining (whatever that is) and explaining
Mr. Mansplain

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#EverydaySexism

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It genuinely makes me sad that you believe this ****, Stroller.

 

Labour been telling porky’s yet again.
Yesterday the fact checker said they were talking a load of old rubbish about the NHS
And today all the stuff they have been saying about the Tories is wrong.
Why do they keep making up this crap.... they say Boris tells porky’s!

 

Johnson's comments about Muslim women in their hijabs looking like letter boxes clearly wasn't meant to be taken literally either. Letter boxes are mainly red.

 

Nice nail varnish, Kiwi.

 

The definition of Poverty in the UK

Poverty can be defined and measured in various ways.
The most commonly used approach is relative income poverty. Each household’s income, adjusted for family size, is compared to median income. (The median is the “middle” income: half of people have more than the median and half have less.)
Those with less than 60 per cent of median income are classified as poor. This ‘poverty line’ is the agreed international measure used throughout the European Union.

http://www.jrf.org.uk/sites/files/jrf/poverty-definitions.pdf

The poverty line in the UK is defined as a household income below 60% of the average. This threshold is currently around £195 a week for a lone parent with two children. Using this definition there are over 3 million children living in poverty.
Shockingly almost half of these children (1.4 million) live in families with a household income far below this – an average of £124 per week for one adult and two children.
At least half of the children living in poverty have a parent who works, showing that low paid work is just as likely to cause financial hardship as reliance on benefits.

http://www.family-action.org.uk/section.aspx?id=691

If the above is the official definition and measure of poverty then there can never be an end to it. By definition, there will also be a median and there will always be a cluster of people whose income is less than 60% of that median.

Question: whilst I would never deny anybody else the opportunity to have children, if you're a low earner and you can't afford to fund your own family, is it really the responsibility of the State (aka the taxpayer) to meet that bill? Difficult one.

 

you try finding one that suits
near impossible

 

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There was more unemployed under Labour. That didn’t help people as you seem to think. They caused unnecessary deaths with their wars. Painted over the cracks and turned us into a country where you get rewarded for being lazy and penalised for working hard. Corbyn is yet another poor leader with ridiculous unsustainable ideas.
However
I agree that homelessness and food banks are disgusting for a rich country like ours. However it’s not just austerity that causes this.

 

You’re beyond help, mate.

 

"WE WOULDN'T WANT THE NHS IF YOU HANDED IT TO US ON A SILVER PLATTER"

President Trump quashes Corbyn's lies that Boris is selling the NHS to the USA.

 

He’s been very consistent on that since yesterday.

 

along with everything else corbyn might accidently offer it to the yanks fer free

 

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https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2010/may/17/liam-byrne-note-successor

 

It shouldn't be but how many times do you see women with three or four kids under 6 or 7 years old and pregnant again and often with various different fathers? My missus spent over 30 years working in a Primary School and there were loads of families like that often single parent and no parental input at all. Often they would start school without even being toilet trained, couldn't write their own name or even count, the sort of things any decent parent would have them doing at two years old.

These families get everything from benefits yet despite the kids being like ragbags the parents would have their i-phones and designer clothes and just keep on having kids like shelling peas, there's no consequences for having more. The costs far exceed what the average person can earn with both parents working but having to pay rent/mortgage and all bills themselves, it's frankly bonkers...

 

Since then we’ve managed to reduce public spending as a share of GDP and increase debt as a percentage of GDP, all while reducing the disposable income of the poorest in society and increasing that of the richest. Something doesn’t add up.

Until the global crisis Labour had debt at a manageable level. The Tories have implemented policies aimed at steadying the ship and instead smashed a massive hole in it.

 

True, by these definitions poverty can't be eradicated. The judgment should be made on the percentage of the population that is defined as poor, which has risen under the Tories - particularly in-work poverty.