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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
    52.1%
  1. QPR Oslo

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    Nobody gets close to the arrogance of the Tories, even if you post your caption 14 times.
     
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  2. QPR Oslo

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    I think it's been been pretty much that way for 30 years at least, and the main reason why Labour have only voted strongly under Blair.
     
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    don't think Thornberry should even be in the Labour Party never mind being considered to lead it. Open warfare in the coming weeks when it sinks in what the extreme left have done to this Party
     
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    as you get older, you get wiser, as proved in said chart
     
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    I’m not sure that’s entirely true. The boomers are quite a uniquely entitled generation (overall- there are of course lots of lovely boomers). Since Thatcherism I think it’s fair to say people have become more selfish.

    Corbyn misjudged this campaign horribly, no doubt. You can’t expect a ground campaign and genuinely well-intentioned but expensive policies on paper to trump soundbites and telling people what they want to hear in 2019.
     
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    She’s wrong to be public with it, assuming this is actually real, but then consider what Boris and other Tories have said about the working class down the years.
     
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    There are some arrogant Tories, but none more than Emily Thornberry - she who had to resign from government for criticising a voter for flying the England flag at his house and owning a white van
     
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    Down the years, I agree. But the Tories seem to have seen the light - Labour's elite are so focused on matters like the Middle East, that they have taken what was once their core vote for granted, viewing them as too thick to understand global issues and selfish for thinking about what's going on in their own lives.
     
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    Labour were adding policies that would cost many billions to their list of intentions daily, like sweets. Buying all the national utilities, free university, free broadband, millions of trees planted each hour, Waspy women etc. The electorate just gave up believing them
     
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    They’re misguided to value the life of a brown kid in Syria as equal to that of Terry, 58, from East Brexitshire. It’s noble but never a vote winner.

    They’re mostly just about bright enough to not air their disdain for the general public with the occasional notable exception like saying Grenfell victims were a bit dim for burning to death.
     
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    As a wannabe prime minister, Corbyn's primary duty was to the people of this country. But the public saw him as an unpatriotic, antisemitic political activist who would **** up the economy.
     
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    Yeah, funny that.
     
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    Lady Nugee as she is also known just can't hide her contempt for the 'thick' average British working man, says everything you need to know about Labour's Metropolitan Elite. The Northern counties may never return if Boris gets it right in the next 5 years and Labour will face endless opposition until the Centre ground of politics re-invents itself with a soft Left alternative...
     
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    Lady Nugee as she is also known just can't hide her contempt for the 'thick' average British working man, says everything you need to know about Labour's Metropolitan Elite. The Northern counties may never return if Boris gets it right in the next 5 years and Labour will face endless opposition until the Centre ground of politics re-invents itself with a soft Left alternative...
     
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    This says it in a nutshell...

     
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    But that's just it, there is no sound judgement in the Labour Party, they still think everyone who didn't vote for them got it wrong because there is no alternative in their world. The new leader wll be crowned by Momentum and will be another treading the same path that has failed twice in two and a half years. They couldn't win offering so many freebies you'd think nothing had a cost, it's not the voters who are stupid it's those trying to ram their ideologies down the voter's throats...
     
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    ''A pride in community and of place'' - those left in such areas should remember which party it was that destroyed such working class communities in the 80s !
     
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    More reason for Labour not to have thrown them under a bus this time...
     
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    And in what way did Labour 'throw them under a bus' ? Or was the truth that the reason for their lost communities and poverty had nothing to do with the EU. not understandable ? Your text also says that Labour does not understand patriotism - what could be more patriotic than taking back industry into British hands ? Do you think that the Tories can claim a monopoly on patriotism by opening up the countries resources to the biggest bidder ?
     
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    No doubt the Labour hierarchy think they are a lost cause and your comments show despite the thrashing Labour received in those areas nothing will change as they undoubtley think the same way as you. So we'll just all agree those voters are stupid...
     
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