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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
    52.1%
  1. rangercol

    rangercol Well-Known Member

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    It was a genuine question.
    There seem to be a lot of different measures of whether one is working class.
    Is it based on your upbringing or on your own life.
    My dad was a professional in the legal profession so I've always thought that made me middle class.
    However, I don't have professional qualifications so I'm never sure.

    Anyway, I'm not obsessed about it, more just curious.

    I'd rather move away from all tags, including left and right wing etc.

    I wasn't trying to be snobby.
     
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  2. Stroller

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    As I said, my upbringing was distinctly working class -. my father was a factory worker, union man and passionate defender of workers' rights, whilst my mother did homeworking on top of looking after three kids in a small two-bed rented flat in Harlesden. Both my parents were very intelligent but never really got the education or opportunities to exploit that intelligence. Based on my own situation in life, most would probably consider me middle class, but in my head I remain working class. I will always support the political party that does most to promote equality of opportunity, that does most to protect and improve the NHS, that does most to protect and improve workers' rights and that best supports the welfare state. The Tories will never be that party and the Tories will never be the party that represents the working class, as you contend they do currently.
     
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    Have you got a knighthood, Col? If so, you probably are working class apparently, like Sir Kier
     
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    Is it a hereditary peerage? No? Ok then
     
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    This is just too ****ing stupid to critique.
     
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    <laugh> You really have to learn to be less sensitive
     
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    <laugh>
     
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    <laugh>
     
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    Oh crap Stroller is part of the Lily Allen brigade!
     
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  10. rangercol

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    Good post.
    This class thing is probably a bit of a red herring. As you say, it's more about how you identify yourself I suppose.

    I'm not saying the Tories have cracked it as the party of "the working class", but I do believe that millions of working class people voted Tory for the first time and it's now down to the Tories to live up to the billing.
    You say there's no chance of that happening and that's fair enough.

    I'm willing to wait and see if they can.

    I'll never agree that people as far left as Corbyn, McDonnell etc getting into power will ever be good for this Country or it's people .

    I'd definitely consider voting for a centre left party, at some point in the future if I agreed with enough of their policies and believed they could deliver it.
     
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    Honestly these nonces still going on about a bell that 99.9% of the country aren’t going to hear.
     
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    They should invest in a speaker system so they can hear it in Germany, that’ll show em.
     
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    Tokyo as well that'll show them Nissan bastards .
     
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    I thought we would do a 'Not606 Brexit celebration' in London under Big Ben :1980_boogie_down:
     
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    They are not laughing now on the oppression benches?

    Boris Johnson's revenge: Tory MPs reject all five Lords amendments, Brexit bill returns to Lords!

     
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    There was a huge Brexit beach party arranged in Holland for 31st October 2019 to celebrate you finally leaving. I wonder is it still going ahead?

    Looking forward to enjoying some cheap duty free booze in LHR when I go over for matches.
     
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