Off Topic The Politics Thread

The speech David Frost gave on a future EU trade deal last night is - to my mind - easily the best pro-leave argument I've read to date. I'd recommend reading it in full at the link below. It's also becoming increasingly clear that we're heading for a Canada type deal from reading this, which putting to one side the pros and cons, is helpful to be able to plan for.

https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2020/...il&utm_term=0_10959edeb5-cbe023874c-190057857

 

Long, dark winters up there!

 

Is the North still underwater?

Seriously, not heard much about it.

 

Queen BANS Prince Harry and Meghan Markle from using lucrative 'Sussex Royal' brand that they hoped to use to build new lives because 'they simply cannot sell themselves as Royals’

• The Duke and Duchess of Sussex spent tens of thousands of pounds on a new Sussex Royal website and their hugely popular Instagram feed
• Couple sought to register Sussex Royal as global trademark for a range of items and activities, including clothing, stationery, books and social-care services
• Also looked to set up a new charitable organisation – Sussex Royal, The Foundation of the Duke and Duchess of Sussex
• But the Queen and senior officials are believed to have agreed it is no longer tenable for Harry and Meghan to keep the word 'royal' in their 'branding'

By Rebecca English Royal Correspondent For The Daily Mail

Published: 09:05 AEDT, 19 February 2020 | Updated: 10:34 AEDT, 19 February 2020



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The Duke and Duchess of Sussex must drop their 'Sussex Royal' label after deciding to step down as working royals.

Following lengthy and complex talks, the Queen and senior officials are believed to have agreed it is no longer tenable for the couple to keep the word 'royal' in their 'branding'.

Harry and Meghan have spent tens of thousands of pounds on a new Sussex Royal website to complement their hugely popular Instagram feed.

They have also sought to register Sussex Royal as a global trademark for a range of items and activities, including clothing, stationery, books and teaching materials.

In addition, they have taken steps to set up a new charitable organisation: Sussex Royal, The Foundation of the Duke and Duchess of Sussex.

It has now been made clear that they will need to 're-brand'.

The Mail understands that, amid what has been described as a 'complex' situation, the 'fine detail' is still being thrashed out.

However, it is understood the couple have accepted that, as part of their new working arrangements, they will not be able to use the Sussex Royal name as they had hoped.

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Prince Harry, Duke of Sussex and Meghan, Duchess of Sussex leaving after attending a Commonwealth Day Service at Westminster Abbey in central London last March

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Harry and Meghan have spent tens of thousands of pounds on a new Sussex Royal website, sussexroyal.com, to complement their hugely popular Instagram feed. It has now been made clear that they will need to 're-brand'

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The development is thought to represent a major blow to the Sussexes, who now face starting again and re-registering everything from their website to their charity under a new label.

Harry and Meghan first began using the Sussex Royal branding this time last year, after they split their household from that of the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge – known as Kensington Royal.

The Sussexes' Instagram page, @sussexroyal, has amassed 11.2million followers – the same number of fans as William and Kate's account.

It was a natural progression, therefore, for Harry and Meghan to use the moniker for their new charitable foundation, due to be launched this year with the support of Buckingham Palace.

And as they secretly prepared for a new life in Canada, it was clear that Sussex Royal was at the forefront of Harry and Meghan's plans.

Dozens of trademark applications were made for everything from bandanas to notebooks – although sources have always stressed that these were preventative measures to protect the trademark from others, and never intended for commercial use.

The couple also privately commissioned a new website. It went live last month to coincide with their bombshell announcement, with the introduction: 'Welcome to the Sussex Royal community, your source for information on the Duke and Duchess of Sussex.'

 

I’d like to think no one actually believes this.

 

This for some reason is hugely important to Martin, 68, a recently retired geography teacher.

 

It seems to rattle your cage quite a bit as well. Does anyone give a sh*t?...

 

Someone must do or they wouldn’t keep printing it.

The utter gammonness of this country does irk me, I’ll admit.

 

Just heard about Dave at the Brits, he’ll have certain people absolutely raging. Good work fella.

 

****ing hell the daily fail comments section is absolutely hilarious. Loads of people who haven’t heard of him. No **** hate filled fail readers aren’t his target audience

 

I knew a Dave who had a dog called Dave, not related...

 

Surely you can see the rationale behind it, or do you think Harry and Meg can set up a multi-million industry in the States, patenting and exploiting to the full the Royal Family name?

 

Of course I can. That wasn’t the point of my post.

 

Will you share with us the point, or are you keeping it to yourself?

 

Thanks for putting this up, Raving. It's a quite brilliant speech by Frost and anyone who wants to understand the rationale behind the Brexit vote should read it. It's the best piece of writing to encapsulate how Brexit came about, how the UK goes forward and the implications for the EU re its current members if it fails to adapt in post-Brexit Europe

 

I’d have thought it was obvious.

It’s something that should be minor news. For some reason it’s not as a broad swathe of people, represented by Martin the retired teacher, really, really care about this and this couple generally.

 

It isn't obvious because it isn't minor news. This isn't about Harry's personal life. It's about the future of the monarchy. If the monarchy is allowed to become commercialised, it could be the end of an institution that has lasted a thousand years and a presidential system would replace it.

Whether you support the monarchy or not, what Harry and Meghan were trying to do had huge implications for the constitution of the UK.

 

Were you a geography teacher?

 

No, airhead, I wasn't