Off Topic The Politics Thread

Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
    52.1%
  1. West WindsR

    West WindsR Well-Known Member

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    Go for it. Let’s see what you’ve got.
     
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  2. ELLERS

    ELLERS Well-Known Member

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    Ha ha what are you going to show... a concession for a straight banana or what can call a pasty? I can see the sweat pouring off you from here.
    You bragged about it. You show me the important concessions that could have stopped Brexit and I will produce the factual information as to why Cameron returned looking like a plum for then Nigel Farage to make his move. Bring it on.... remember we are talking Brexit.
     
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  3. West WindsR

    West WindsR Well-Known Member

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    You’re a bit over-excited for Monday morning.

    I didn’t say they could have stopped Brexit. I said we had concessions over and above other EU members, which we did, but nothing was ever going to be enough for the right wing of the Tories who Cameron chose to appease with a moronically simplified referendum which has led to five years of chaos at great expense since.
     
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  4. ELLERS

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    Not over excited mate just know for a fact that the concessions the EU gave us didn’t impact Brexit like the ones they didn’t.
    I said before, if the EU could have adapted, I would have voted remain. I never had a problem with freedom of movement as I enjoyed being able to live and work in other countries. No immigrant card this end although we did need a shake up of policy.
    I don’t blame anyone other than certain elements in Brussels.
     
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  5. pompeymeowth

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    There are some very unhappy small businesses, in the UK right now.

    The very people, the Tories champion.

    Boris's deal has shat all over them.
     
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    Well he did say '**** business' and he has.

    A man of his word.
     
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  7. Quite Possibly Raving

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    Meanwhile over in the US of A:

    Rudy Guiliani is being sued by the producers of the voting machines. Can't wait to see how much support he receives from ex-president Trump he receives now......be lucky if he gets a phone call stating "you're a great guy Rudy and you won't let them beat you".

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/world-us-canada-55801819
     
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    I normally don't enjoy feasting on other people demise but with Trump & Rudy on the menu, l'm thinking of going back for seconds.
     
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    I'm reading that heavy tariffs are being placed on EU wine coming into the UK. In the long run, this will only hurt EU member states surely. UK consumers will choose South African, South American, Australian wines etc before EU and very good they are too.
     
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  11. ELLERS

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    I am a classic French wine drinker and they really do have some of the best wines... However I am also not stupid when it comes to paying for a decent bottle. As you said wine from other countries are really moving up the ladder. Even the UK is starting to produce some good stuff. The answer to your post Goldie is that people will often go for the cheaper product when money is tight.
     
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    French wines are fabulous at the top end, but if you're buying Latour or Cheval Blanc, you aren't going to be phased by an extra two or three quid for tariffs on the price of the bottle. It's at the cheap end where it hurts, and I don't think cheap French wine compares well with wines from the New World anyway
     
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    agree, the lower the quality French wine is no better than some others.
     
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    Not every market is as liquid as the wine market.
     
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    Will probably have an impact on our whisky and gin exports though, and although the US and Japan are the biggest importers of Scotch this will have an effect on the sector. Are they big whisky drinkers on the continent?
     
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    Actually, the big tariffs on Scotch are the US tariffs - 25%. This was imposed on the EU by Trump when we were still in the EU as a result of a trade dispute. I read that it's possible this will be lifted for the UK now we're out.
     
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  18. Steelmonkey

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    Some good news then if true - is that because the US are lifting the tariffs imposed by Trump now he's gone, or are the tariffs still there but getting lifted as we're not in the EU?
     
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    you don't want to be wasting your money on that Australian muck
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    Some of that Australian wine tastes like Kangaroo pi55 from a dodgy BBQ. Happy Australia Day!
     
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