Off Topic The Politics Thread

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

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    52.1%
  1. ELLERS

    ELLERS Well-Known Member

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    mmm not so sure Goldie. She’s already turning the attention on to Salmond unpleasantness. The SNP are run like a gang.
    Funny how she is speaking on Budget day? At 12 everyone will be looking at London.
     
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    The SNP don't have an overall majority in the Scottish Parliament. If there's a vote of no confidence after her evidence, she may well go...
     
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    You’d think people would be fuming especially those having a dig at the situation in Scotland.
     
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  4. ELLERS

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    The convener has just accused her of delaying and she now seems shaky in her voice.
     
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    Let's hope they have some really able QC's to cross examine her
     
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  6. ELLERS

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    Yeah she seems to be coming unstuck here. You can always tell by the pitch of the voice and how she is stuttering when answering a question.
     
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    All I am going to say ... mistakes seemed to have been made ...but if the claims against Salmond were not fully investigated...it would have been rightly claimed there was a cover up..

    This sort of behaviour is odious in extreme...and this grubby man should not be allowed a public platform.

    I would charge the SNP for not getting him convicted.
    Before you all tell me he was innocent, I have read most of what is in public domain ... And yes he was in a court of law....but he was not in the court of natural justice..
     
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  8. ELLERS

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    Beth it’s not about if Salmond is innocent or not. That was sorted in a court of law. It’s whether Sturgeon broke ministerial rules. Don’t confuse the two.
     
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    Dependant upon what happens today, The Greens may keep her in place but it'll be touch and go as not all SNP MSPs are with her, there's a fair few in Salmonds corner...
     
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    Agree I have just seen a tweet where 2 MSP have contradicted her claims.
     
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    I thought breaking the ministerial code was accepted nowadays
     
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  12. ELLERS

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    Hang on... alarm bells always to start to ring when people say...
    “I’m sorry, I can’t remember”, “ I don’t know”, “I can’t recall” “I’m not sure”.
    She needs to stop those erratic hand movements with the pen as well.
     
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    You can see from what I wrote I (have to) accept that....

    ....but I celebrate the fact he was prosecuted and his grubbiness was brought into the open.

    I am sad he was not convicted.

    I am still not quite understanding what is the ministerial code that was broken..
    They went ahead with the prosecution even though they were told it would fail, is that so terrible ( I am glad they did)..costs money but at least showed him up to be what he is.

    Sturgeon knew a couple of days before she said she did...
    But there are lots of things I half know, before it is official...That prince Philip was pretty ill for a current example.
    So is that a real resigning issue.


    Or am I missing something, other than its all political....anti Sturgeon from the Salmond camp, anti SNP from every one else.

    I have no views on the SNP for or against per se, it's not my country.

    But I do support the women involved here, as said I can relate to their experience
     
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  14. ELLERS

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    For someone that has no views on this Beth you keep popping up with points?

    “I am still not quite understanding what is the ministerial code that was broken..
    They went ahead with the prosecution even though they were told it would fail, is that so terrible ( I am glad they did)..costs money but at least showed him up to be what he is.

    You mean witch hunt to get him out of the way at taxpayers expense? If this was happening in Downing Street this place would be in meltdown from the usual suspects.

    I understand from reading your previous posts that you have a problem with Salmond. Beth I also think he is a creepy horrid thing when around women but this is about Sturgeons actions and her ministerial conduct.
     
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    I think there's a view that opponents may want to keep her in post for the upcoming election, they would then have ammo to discredit her. She's basically 'holed below the waterline' and that generally means it's only a matter of time before she goes...
     
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    Agree she is damaged goods and will be toast at some point. she is trying to cover things up and making a crap job of it. She is getting slatted from all corners on Twitter.
     
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  17. ELLERS

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    I’m glad someone else has picked up on this
     
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    I wish we had had a "witch hunt" against Jimmy Saville, all the investigations against him came to nothing...and only came out when he died.

    Yes Ellers you are completely right I have a major problem with Salmond, which is not political. I am sorry that I keep coming and expressing it on this the Political thread, which should only be reserved for political comment.

    Mind you if some one is not fit to serve in the public sector due to his inability to act politely and correctly around women, perhaps it is politics
     
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  19. ELLERS

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    No Beth I agree on both points and I was actually trying to say that it’s good you join in... just crap wording by me. Otherwise it’s just Watford and I talking rubbish?
    PS
    I always thought something was not right with Saville. Always found him a bit creepy.
     
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