Off Topic The Politics Thread

Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
    52.1%
  1. Goldhawk-Road

    Goldhawk-Road Well-Known Member

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  2. Quite Possibly Raving

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    I confess it's not an issue I can get too exercised by, but I just still can't see the case for change. The burden of proof is on those trying to move away from the status quo, and I've not seen anything to prove this is an actual problem, or that it will do more good than harm to bring it in. I think it's probably just smart politics from the Govt as they know it will get Lab all fired up and Lab will paint this as a discriminatory policy, which makes Lab even more unrelatable to the Red Wall et al.
     
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  3. ELLERS

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    Sorry to knock the SNP. I know it upsets you.
     
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  4. ELLERS

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    I think this has been on the cards for some time. I always say if you have nothing to hide, then why not have ID? Agree some will say it will hinder some voters.
     
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  5. West WindsR

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    Some will say it because it does. If it disproportionately affected groups likely to vote Tory it wouldn’t be up for discussion. It’s straight out of the Trump playbook.
     
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  6. ELLERS

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    Explain how it will hinder some groups?
     
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  7. Steelmonkey

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    **** sake man, how many times do you need to be told, I have no interest in the SNP, Sturgeon, Salmond or any of their cronies <doh>
     
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  8. Stroller

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    Ellers does like to categorise people, often incorrectly, and then stick to this categorisation in the face of all evidence to the contrary.
     
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  9. ELLERS

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    Kettle...black
     
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  10. ELLERS

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    I know that, you have told me before.
     
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  11. surreyhoop

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    He doesn't have to explain Ellers. There are many articles you can look up yourself that are on this topic. On the face of it ID is not a bad idea, but dig deeper and is it necessary? No is the fast answer as voter fraud not an issue. Not now or for past 100+ years. Unless of course you have evidence that lets say Atlee ousted Churchill in 1945 in nefarious circumstaces. Was he aided by some dodgy votes for example? Perhaps Clement Attlee outdid him in 1945 and introduced the NHS under Labour as a cruel joke. Do you support the NHS Ellers or was that a historical Labour blunder in your eyes?
     
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    And before you say it...yes I know Churchill won again in the 50's! My point being voting ID not necessary. I think our electorate can decide and a broadchurch with no restrictions is surely good. We are not a country of disenfranchisement.
     
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    Who doesn't have some form of id these days
     
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    Who checks the ID of postal voters?
     
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  15. kiwiqpr

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    you can on your downtime
     
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    What if they're dead, or in Peru? Do I get a free flight to check the ones in Peru?
     
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  20. kiwiqpr

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    id is bad
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