The Premier League Thread

Always going round and around.

 

Some of you are just full of air.

 

its just pneumatics

 

We should be enquiring about Lewis Cook. Think he would fit in here very well

 

City have a £41m bid for Nathan Ake accepted.

 

Saudis have pulled out of the Newcastle takeover.

 

In a lot a lot of ways, that's good news for us. But I can't help but feel sorry those fans. They deserve better

 

Oh dear what a shame never mind.

 

Poor Newcastle fans get introduced to their new stepfather every second Thursday, and they're off before they've so much as learned their name.

 

Perhaps that's why the Premier League kept delaying in the hope that they would withdraw and make their lives easier.

 

I see the word 'heartbroken' seems to be the main quoted word from Newcastle fans on both BBC and Sky.


I could understand 'disappointed' or 'frustrated' , but heartbroken seems a bit over the top to me. Heartbroken would be if your potential investor was the one who was going to save you from going out of existence; I am sure Bury fans were heartbroken when things didn't work out for them last year.


Newcastle have missed out on being the richest club in England, and instead must console themselves with merely existing as a Premier League club (with Ashley for now, but that won't be forever).


I have some sympathy for he fans who are quietly disappointed/frustrated by what's happened. But to the outwardly 'heartbroken' I am afraid ot me they just come across as greedy and over-entitled.

 

I suppose most fans would sleep with the devil if their club faced going out of business, but that isn't the case with Newcastle. Do none of them have any concern about who their prospective buyer is?

 

No, all they cared about was seeing Mbappe in a Newcastle shirt..

 

But they have Andy Carroll, what more do they want?

 

I think there is a feeling that it is hypocracy to highlight the human rights record etc of a prospective football club owner, when that same person dines with the queen, andf we as a country do £billions of business with their government.

 

Political life is full of moral compromises, sadly. I have often pondered the fact that the world condemned South Africa (quite rightly) for apartheid, yet turn a blind eye to subjugation of women in many countries. Would it be tolerated if black people were denied the right to travel freely or even to drive? The argument offered is that this is the way their society works....but that only holds water if the subjugated are free to make a choice. Perhaps South Africa should have claimed that ill treating black people was part of their religion.

 

In fairness (and please don't take this as me defending MBS, he's horrid) he's been moving a great distance to relaxing all the more draconian laws with regard to women within Saudi (women can drive there now), and is also trying to develop the country wholesale to being less reliant on oil, and becoming a nice place to live and visit.

 

Agreed. Culture is a hard thing to change - whether the need is right or wrong.

Just look back in our history and things that we totally abhor now, were seen as normal maybe just 50 or 60 years ago. Not defending them, but if they can see the need for a change, then that is a start. Rome wasn't built in a day, though it seems that the Saudis are dragging their feet to enter the 21st century.

So, a true No7 post. Sitting on the fence. My arse hurts now.

 

He's still a bastard and a basket case, but as has been shown to incredible effect with Iraq, Libya and Syria, you need basket case bastards to keep a lid on things in that area. It's so, so culturally different from the West, and our arrogance in thinking we can successfully go and transplant our way of living over there has been the biggest tragedy of the past fifty years.

If you haven't watched "Once Upon A Time In Iraq" on iPlayer yet, I implore everyone to watch it. One of the most vital and compelling pieces of television I've ever seen.

 

someone to play the other 34 games