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Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by remembercolinlee, Feb 13, 2021.

  1. KingHotspur

    KingHotspur Well-Known Member

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    Bring him in into the end of the season with Ledley as one of his coaches.

    Guarantee Spurs would improve.
     
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  2. humanbeingincroydon

    humanbeingincroydon Well-Known Member

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    That's the thing about completely hollow soundbites, they don't stand up well if you look at them for about...hmm, let's say half a second

    Case in point, at which point between 2016-20 was America made "great" again?
     
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  3. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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  4. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    We can now actually rule him out.

    Just agreed to take over Dortmund at the end of the season <laugh>
     
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  5. remembercolinlee

    remembercolinlee Well-Known Member

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    We are apparently paying JM £15m per year.
    I know lots of us felt we needed to pay more to attract and keep the better players and managers.
    Think Toby, Dier and Sanchez are going to be difficult to shift cos of their wages and Rose was difficult to sell for the same reason.
    Could we be about to experience similar difficulties that Arsenal have had in being stuck with players they no longer want due to their wages?
     
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  6. Citizen Kane.

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    He's apparently being lined up by Madrid if Zidane goes.

    Potter it is then <laugh> <magic>
     
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  7. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    In short, yes very likely.

    Despite the fact we need so much work in the summer with regards to outgoings and incomings, I fear it's going to end in bitter, bitter disappointment.
     
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  8. Citizen Kane.

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    Tying the Three Stooges down to long-term contracts (2024,2024 and 2023) was a shambles of a decision.
     
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  9. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    Sanchez I can understand, he signed his deal in 2018 when it was still expected he'd go on to be a good player, he's not on that much in comparison to others either.

    Toby and Dier though, disastrous decisions.
     
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  10. remembercolinlee

    remembercolinlee Well-Known Member

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    He is a busted flush who should NEVER have been made our manager.

    Total record

    P50 W23 D13 L14 Pts 82
    pts per game 1.64 which makes 62 per season.

    This season
    Pts per game 1.56 which makes 59 per season.

    Since 2005/6 (15 years ago) when Jol was our manager we have got less than 60 points 3 times.

    1. 2007/8 when we sacked Jol and put Ramos in.
    2. 2008/09 when we sacked Ramos and put Redknapp in.
    3. 2019/20 when we sacked Pochettino and put JM in.

    This season is a disaster end of .
    Pochettino was not sacked to give us this dross.
    He has brought in 9 players and we have got worse.
    If he is going to be given time to rebuild then it begs the obvious question...why wasn't Pochettino?

    Pochettino's last 50 prem games:
    P50 W24 D5 L18 pts 77

    That's just 5 points worse than JMs record
    So if sacking Pochettino was necessary then I do not get why JM is still here.

    Pochettino's last 12 games
    W4 D3 L5 pts 15

    JMs last 12 gamed
    W2 D3 L7 pts 9
     
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  11. Billy The Spur

    Billy The Spur Well-Known Member

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    On the face of it, Levy has failed spectacularly again with the appointment of Mourinho, that and giving us a squad containing at least half a dozen championship level players.
     
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  12. humanbeingincroydon

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    Pretty sure that Levy didn't say "No, you're not having Youcef Atal, you're having Matt Doherty"
     
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  13. The RDBD

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    IMHO : the T+Cs cost of the pay-off if tis done before the end of a season.

    As the contract does not seem to be payment based on performance
    (I doubt Jose had sufficient "I'll show the doubters" fire in his belly to
    agree to that) , then signing on the line was always a "win/win" .

    Nemesis may now have come for Joe Lewis ...
     
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  14. PowerSpurs

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    Only one of those criticisms can be right....if Mourinho is a bad manager then we should have about ten more points and be top four with ease.
    What were Levy's other spectacular failures by the way?
     
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  15. remembercolinlee

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    Santini, Pleat and Ramos were pretty spectacular cock ups cos we went backwards under them.
    Hoddle, AVB and Sherwood were all pointless failures as we failed to improve on what went before.
    But he has out done himself with JM imho
     
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  16. "Thanks for that Brian"

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    In terms of Levy and managers, that really is shooting fish in a barrel.

    Hoddle - Poor appointment. We were no better than under The Bloke in the Coat...and that's piss poor.

    Santini - Dreadful appointment. The bloke was awful and the only good thing about him was he walked. Disastrous.

    BMJ - His appointment as coach was all Arnesen's doing...his appointment as manager was due to Levy's choice walking and having no real choice.

    Ramos - Cost a fortune to get him out of Spain and he was dreadful barring a couple of cup games. Appalling.

    'Arry - The only Levy pick of any note.

    AVB - Mourinho lite. Inherited a great squad and had to be shown the door inside a season and a half. Predictably crap.

    The Gilet - Laughable and yet, really not funny at the same time.

    Poch - We were 24 hours away from announcing Louis van Gaal...before he pulled a Willian and second choice Poch, saved Levy from another monumental **** up.

    Mourinho - Came on the back of having melt downs in his 2 previous jobs and playing desperately poor football. He's not reversing that form
     
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  17. remembercolinlee

    remembercolinlee Well-Known Member

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    <laugh>
     
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  18. PowerSpurs

    PowerSpurs Well-Known Member

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    The only way of judging a Chairman is whether he improved the club. Everyone gets lots of individual decisions slightly wrong. If Levy had made bad decisions on average we would have been relegated, not complaining about one season which already would be one of our better ones in each of the 30 years before Levy.
     
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  19. PowerSpurs

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    Most clubs have gone backwards overall in the last 20 years. We have not. This means Levy has outperformed most Chairmen.
     
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  20. "Thanks for that Brian"

    "Thanks for that Brian" Well-Known Member

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    I'm not saying that Levy hasn't improved the club's overall standing...and that's the point. We're not the club that we were 10, 20 or 30 years ago.

    We have an elite stadium. We have an elite training facility. We are one of the 10 richest clubs in the world. We have two of the best forwards in the world...and a chairman who specialises in making the right commercial decisions and picking the wrong manager...over and over again.
     
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