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Things We Think We Think #270

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by Dr.Stanley O'Google, HCFC, Oct 30, 2017.

  1. Dr.Stanley O'Google, HCFC

    Dr.Stanley O'Google, HCFC Well-Known Member

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    1. After the gritty win at Barnsley that entertained few but at least knocked a hefty monkey from our collective backs, City failed to build upon it on Saturday. Defeat to Nottingham Forest, fellow midtablers, was sloppy and unnecessary, and indicative of a side that’s going nowhere this season.

    2. Forest are a capable but unspectacular side who unquestionably deserved to win. A 2-3 defeat may sound modestly creditable and even a little exciting, but the truth is frustratingly different. City were poor, and the narrowness of the scoreline is probably flattering.

    3. Team selections cause all too many eyebrows to be raised this season, even allowing for the thin pickings Leonid Slutsky has been left with. However, those picked didn’t do enough. David Meyler, who we unconditionally adore, had a rare howler, and his rotten teatime was sadly far from unique. We looked shaky at the back, overrun in midfield and (Bowen apart) weak up front.

    4. In fact, Bowen was the only outfielder who impressed. He’s a class act who many good judges thought would make the first team before long, but even his most ardent admirers couldn’t have foreseen just what a stellar impact he’d have made this season. He’s been a sensation. And increasing in value every week. Oh bugger.

    4a. An honourable mention to Allan McGregor too. Like refs, you often only notice keepers when things aren’t going well for them. Well, McGregor’s not grabbed too much attention this season – but in a good way, and he had another solid afternoon on Saturday, even though he saw three goals fly past him. We aren’t missing Leicester’s third keeper at all.

    5. What an anomalous player Markus Henriksen is. There had been some signs of improvement recently, a well taken goal and an assist made people wonder if we are finally going to share sight of what City saw in him in August 2016. His selection on Saturday was mystifying and his performance woeful. Players have off form games, sure, but what was more worrying was the lack of awareness and appetite when Bowen went on a stunning solo run and was setting himself up to centre the ball, all Henriksen had to do was be there to get a tap in, but instead he spectated yards away.

    6. Any hopes that the Barnsley win represented a watershed moment in City’s fortunes were pulverised against Forest. There’s still a sense that if Leonid Slutsky has a philosophy, then he’s yet to fully impart it. Yes he has been treated risibly since tricked into taking the job, it was hard to disagree with his claim that he was still doing pre-season work after the closure of the transfer window, but with November upon us you would expect by now to be seeing the fruits of what the gaffer has sewn in the minds of players. Is communication an issue? Who knows, but what we saw late Saturday was an incoherent mess.

    7. As usual, we cannot avoid off-field matters. The protest march first. It left the William Gemmell on Anlaby Road at 4.30pm, attracting a few hundred City fans and was well handled by all. Humberside Police provided a sizeable but unobtrusive escort, temporarily closing roads to permit a smooth journey to the West Stand, while the City fans made themselves heard forcibly but peacefully. Congratulations to Hull City Action For Change for its inception and execution.

    8. They’re not the only ones ramping up the protests though. Separate to that organisation, a reprise of the 1998 tennis ball protest at Bolton (that remains one of our proudest moments was organised by others), with hundreds of vividly yellow stress balls raining down on the pitch at 19’04” to halt what was a televised game. Not all agree with it, but two things seem clear: it’s been effective, with the abysmal conduct of the Allam family that prompted it receiving national attention. Secondly, it’s absurd to suggest that City’s lousy performance was a consequence of it. It removes agency from the players, who – though limited – are generally honest triers and it’s insulting to suggest they can be so easily distracted (and why were Forest’s XI miraculously unaffected?).

    9. Middlesbrough at home and then Sheffield United away, over the next few days. Even when the fixtures were announced it looked like the most appetising week of the season, taking on two sides with whom we have always encountered a bit of needle. Given that Boro are starting to show some fight for this division after a slow start, while Sheffield United top the table proudly and rather smugly after doing over Leeds United at the weekend, it’s not just an appetising week ahead, but a fairly pivotal one. Though as they are known as Boro and Blades, obviously we should beat the pair of them, shouldn’t we?

    10. The tribute to Les Mutrie, courtesy of a banner, the big screens and a minute’s thunderous applause, was much appreciated by members of his family, who were present at Saturday’s game. We remain quite fortunate that unlike other clubs, we haven’t lost many of our modern day, colour telly heroes as yet, so when one genuine City legend does leave us, it’s gratifying to know we can celebrate his contribution to the club and his life as a whole with class, style and respect.

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  2. PLT

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    It's as good as ever, but I particularly liked "Secondly, it’s absurd to suggest that City’s lousy performance was a consequence of it. It removes agency from the players, who – though limited – are generally honest triers and it’s insulting to suggest they can be so easily distracted (and why were Forest’s XI miraculously unaffected?)."

    This is what I've been saying too, but as ever they've put it much better. I can't understand why there's always this assumption among anti-protesters that it will affect our team but not the opposition. In fact, immediately after the second stoppage on Saturday, the Forest goal kick was miscontrolled and went out for a City throw, but I didn't hear any of the moaners around me in the West stand drawing the connection as they were inevitably so keen to do when Forest scored 10 minutes after the first protest. Needless to say I loudly pointed it out.
     
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  3. Amin Yapusi

    Amin Yapusi Well-Known Member

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    Was you at the game?
     
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  4. PLT

    PLT Well-Known Member

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    I think I made that quite clear.
     
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  5. Amin Yapusi

    Amin Yapusi Well-Known Member

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    Paying the Allams is the best form of protest <ok>

    Hats off.
     
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  6. PLT

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    I didn't and don't pay the Allams. I've probably been to about 10 home games since I stopped paying for a pass/ticket, and I'm there tomorrow too. It's because I'm such a delight that I have such a range of friends prepared to lend me their pass when they can't make it.
     
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    Going to to the game and protesting whilst there is the best form of protest. <ok>
     
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  8. Chilton's Hundreds

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    That's double standards. Any boycott should be on principle not because someone else has paid for the ticket.
     
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  9. Newland Tiger

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    Why is it double standards ? Unless he's telling other people to do something and isn't doing it himself
     
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  10. lewisc29

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    I don't think people have to defend themselves for choosing to do either.
     
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  11. Chilton's Hundreds

    Chilton's Hundreds Well-Known Member

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    If you're going to boycott games at the KCOM then you boycott them ALL and not go to some just cos your mate lends you his pass.

    Can you not see that ??
     
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  12. Amin Yapusi

    Amin Yapusi Well-Known Member

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    When that person is holding a position of trust and setting an example to follow, exploiting a privileged position to continue attendance rubs salt in the wounds a little.
     
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  13. PLT

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    I don't want to contribute to their bank balance nor the attendance at home games. If there's a ticket which is paid for anyway and is going unused, I'll happily take it.
     
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  14. Obadiah

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    There is no organised boycott of Hull City games. Therefore to me its irrelevant whether someone lends PLT his or her pass so he can watch Hull City in person.
     
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  15. Amin Yapusi

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    I do so wish I was privileged to have lots of friends who would lend me their passes when they're unable to attend.
     
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  16. LeftSaidFred

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    What's the point of that post. So PLT has a bunch of mates who still have season tickets. So ****ing what, Hardly unusual.
     
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  17. LeftSaidFred

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  18. Kempton

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    If someone lent me their pass, I'd go too. I'd feel like I was taking the piss and getting one over the Allams :emoticon-0172-mooni
     
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  19. BillyBobBallbag

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    I went in on a kids pass Saturday, **** you Allam .... wait, hang on
     
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  20. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

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    No you give it the big un on here telling all you won't set foot in the kcom while they're here. Get loads of likes then go anyway. Win win.
     
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