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Tottenham Hotspur v Manchester United Match History 1899 to 2015

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  1. THFC6061

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    Tottenham Hotspur host Manchester United on Sunday 28th December 2014 (KO 12:00) in the 19th round of matches in the 2014-15 season.
    It will be the 186th meeting between the two clubs who were the "glamour teams" of the 1960s.

    Spurs come into the match in 7th place on 30 points with United in 3rd place on 35 points.

    Tottenham Hotspur's first meeting with Manchester United came in the old 1st round (today's 3rd round) of the FA Cup in January 1899 when United were known as Newton Heath. The match was drawn 1-1 at Northumberland Park, but Spurs won the replay 5-3 at Bank Street in Clayton, Manchester.

    A decade later the two clubs met for the first time in a Football League match with United drawing 2-2 at White Hart Lane in the First Division.

    The reverse fixture at Old Trafford was easilly won by United 5-0.

    Tottenham's first League win over United came in November 1911 2-1 at Old Trafford.

    Both clubs met for four seasons in the Second Division during the 1930s.

    Since the start of football after WW2, all League meetings have taken place in the Top Flight of the English League system.

    In 1952, both clubs toured North America and played two exhibition matches with Spurs winning 5-0 in Toronto, Canada and 7-1 in New York, USA.

    The clubs were drawn together in the 1963-64 European Cup Winners' Cup with Spurs winning 2-0 at the Lane and United winning 4-1 at Old Trafford.

    Old Trafford was the venue for the 1967 FA Charity Shield with League Champions United and FA Cup Winners Spurs drawing 3-3 in a game most remembered for goalkeeper Pat Jennings' long-range goal. The Charity Shield was shared.

    August 1979 saw the clubs meet for the first time in the Football League Cup and Glenn Hoddle's magnificent volly was the winning goal in a 2-1 Spurs victory at White Hart Lane. United went on to win the second leg at Old Trafford 3-1.

    In June 1983, the clubs played two matches in Swaziland, Southern Africa, resulting in a win each. Prior to this season, Spurs last win at Old Trafford came in December 1989 thanks to a Gary Lineker goal.

    The clubs have only ever met in one Domestic Cup Final - the 2009 Football League (Carling) Cup Final at Wembley, which ended in a 0-0 draw after extra time. United won the subsequent penalty shoot-out.

    Manchester United and Tottenham Hotspur were founder members of the Premier League in 1992-93 and are two of the seven clubs who have been ever-present up to the 2013-14 season - Arsenal, Aston Villa, Chelsea, Everton and Liverpool being the other five.The fixtures during season 2010-11 saw United win 2-0 at Old Trafford in October while the reverse match at White Hart Lane ended in a 0-0 draw.

    2010-11 was the first season when both Manchester United and Tottenham Hotspur competed together in the UEFA Champions League. Both clubs won their respective Group Stages and progressed to the Knock-Out Phase. Spurs eventually went out to Real Madrid in the Quarter Finals while Manchester United made it to the Final, only to lose to Barcelona.

    The away 2011-12 fixture at Old Trafford in August resulted in a 3-0 win for United with goals from Danny Welbeck, who headed in Tom Cleverley's cross just after 60 minutes and he then produced a wonderful instinctive flick to set up a second for Anderson. Wayne Rooney scored with a pinpoint late header from Ryan Giggs's centre.

    The game at White Hart Lane in March 2012 was won by United 3-1. Wayne Rooney scored on the stroke of half-time to put the visitors ahead at the break. Further goals were added with a brace from Ashely Young before Jermain Defoe got one back for Spurs with three minutes remaining.

    Last season's fixture at Old Trafford resulted in an historic 3-2 win for Tottenham - their first in the League at Old Trafford in 23 years. Jan Vertonghen's second minute strike was deflected-in off Jonny Evans and Gareth Bale added a second goal after 32 minutes. United hit back through Luis Nani after 51 minutes but Spurs restored their two goal cushion a minute later with a Clint Dempsey goal. Shinji Kagawa scored United's second goal a minute later and Spurs survived the pressure for a United equaliser to come away with three very well earned points.

    Former Manchester United defender Zeki Fryers joined Spurs in January 2013 from Standard Liege in Belgium.The match at White Hart Lane in January 2013 resulted in a 1-1 draw. Robin van Persie put United ahead on 25 minutes but an injury-time goal from Clint Dempsey meant the points were shared. United went on to win the Premier League Title and Sir Alex Ferguson resigned at the end of the season.

    Kyle Walker put Spurs ahead after 18 minutes in the 2013-14 game at White Hart Lane in December but Wayne Rooney equalised in the 32nd minute.
    Sandro's 54th minute goal was cancelled out by a Wayne Rooney penalty three minutes later for a final score of 2-2. Tottenham's good recent form against United continued on New Year's Day 2014 at Old Trafford with a 2-1 win. Emmanuel Adebayor put Spurs 1-0 up after 34 minutes and Chrisian Eriksen doubled the lead after 66 minutes. Danny Welbeck immediately pulled a goal back for United but Tottenham came away with all three points.

    Overall, United have a very good record over Spurs with 86 wins to 51 with 48 of the 185 matches played so far drawn. United are due to host Spurs at Old Trafford in the Premier League on 14th March 2015.

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    Tottenham Hotspur v Manchester United Complete Match Records 1899 to 2015

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    They Played for Spurs & United....

    Jamie Attwell
    David Beckham (United player, Spurs trainee)
    Dimitar Berbatov
    Bill Berry
    Alan Brazil
    Jimmy Brown
    Fraizer Campbell
    Michael Carrick
    Garth Crooks

    Harry Erentz
    Quinton Fortune
    Zeki Fryers
    Terry Gibson

    Tommy Gipps
    Greoge Graham (United player, Spurs manager)
    Jack Hall
    Stewart Houston (United player, Spurs asst. manager)
    David Gwilan Jones
    Joe Jordan (United player, Spurs coach)
    Cyril Knowles
    Chris McGrath
    James McNaught
    Fred Milnes
    Louis Saha
    Teddy Sheringham


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    Tottenham Hotspur Premier League Player's Squad Numbers 1993-94 to 2014-15

    Manchester United Premier League Player's Squad Numbers 1993-94 to 2014-15

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  2. No Kane No Gain

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    Win this and we'll be 2 points off third at the halfway point of the season. Not too shabby, just need to beat United first...

    We've not lost to them in awhile and I do believe they're vulnerable to good teams but it just depends what side turns up and for how long, we play some great football at times but too often we let the opposition back into the game. Think it's a tough one to call but I'm feeling that this one might be a step backwards for us, could've done with playing them at the start of the season.
     
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  3. The Mighty Thor

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    I'll settle for a draw in the next two.
     
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    A game where the opposition is prepared to attack us is our best bet for points. They're vulnerable at the back and we have players who are able to exploit that, as ever our success depends on whether our midfield and defence can contain United's potent attacking players to the extent where ours are more effective.
     
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  5. remembercolinlee

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    We are going to get punished in the next 2 matches...we have just got our GD out of negative...
     
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  6. littleDinosaurLuke

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    Utd have been fairly poor away from Old Trafford this season. The team would be well suited to counterattacking, but can't defend. Counterattacking is a great tactic if you can defend the opposition's attacks, win the ball back and move forward at pace. Utd's problem is that we can't soak up the attacks. Home teams get plenty of the ball and look dangerous with it. We got away with it at Arsenal and Southampton, with help from de Gea, but some teams will take advantage just like Leicester did in September.

    That should give you encouragement for Sunday if it wasn't for the fact that you don't know which Spurs team will turn up. You also make errors at the back and risk that being exploited by a strong attacking team. I can't predict the outcome of this game - any result is possible. The only certainty is that one team or the other will win- or failing that it will be a draw :laugh:
     
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    Unfortunately, I expect Utd's attack to take advantage of our daydreaming defense. True Utd's defence is poor too, but they have far more firepower coming forward.

    Hope I'm wrong, but given our home form, Optimism is not high.
     
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  8. The Mighty Thor

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    Imagine the euphoria if we win.
     
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  9. PleaseNotPoll

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    I think that we need to rethink our midfield for this one, as it was largely ineffective for most of the last game.
    Our fullbacks were overloaded frequently and we struggled to maintain meaningful possession for most of the last hour.
    Davies has to return to the side, though and Kane looks a bit knackered, so we could struggle if we make too many changes.

    Both sides have picked up a few good results recently in games where they haven't been at their best.
    The media may create various reasons for that, but I think it's down to having a few determined, confident players with a bit of quality.
    Shame we don't have a few more.
     
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  10. THFC6061

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    Mark Lawrenson's Prediction for Tottenham Hotspur v Manchester United

    It is three wins in a row now for Tottenham after their win over Leicester on Boxing Day.

    Christian Eriksen got Spurs' winner in the 71st-minute against the Foxes, which was early for him.

    Joking aside, they are clearly on a good run of form and will cause Manchester United some problems.

    I was at Old Trafford for United's win over Newcastle and I thought their performance in that game summed up the first half of their season so far.

    When they attacked, United were very good. Every time they came forward they looked capable of scoring.

    But, defensively, they were quite ordinary and vulnerable at times.

    United are going to win an awful lot of games with the attacking players they have got, including their wing-backs.

    On the other hand, if they have to defend for long periods in a game then they are going to find that difficult.

    I'm going for a draw here, mainly because I don't think Spurs boss Mauricio Pochettino will commit too many men forward - that is not is his way. This more likely to be a tight, tactical battle.

    Lawro's prediction: Tottenham Hotspur 1-1 Manchester United


    Lawro's 2014-15 Premier League Predictions
    http://www.myfootballfacts.com/Mark_Lawrenson_Predictions_2014-15.html
     
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    Sounds closer to the truth, in my opinion.
     
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    I can't believe this, I've just seen we';ve been given Jon Moss for the game. ****ing Hell.
     
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  13. redwhiteandermblue

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    The wild card is how playing on one day’s rest will affect both teams. I’d think seriously of rotating where we have reasonable options, in the hope of getting an advantage from fresh legs. That would mean Davies, Chiriches, Dembele, Stambouli/Capoue and/or Townsend in. Of those, I would think Chiriches would be the right choice given Walker’s recent comeback from serious injury, and Davies because he’s at least a co-starter. I’m assuming Lennon is injured, or I’d consider adding him as well. On the other hand, whatever the benefits of rotation, we have three proven PL goal scorers in Kane, Eriksen and Chadli, and I would start at least 2/3 and possibly 3/3 of those. Lloris got the lion’s share of credit for yesterday’s win, and deserved it. It was in some sense a tale of two keepers. But an equally valid point is that we have good goal scorers and creators, and Leicester doesn’t.

    Mason and Bentaleb, unfortunately, have fallen off badly. Dembele has a great history against United, so I’d certainly give him a spot, possibly Lamela’s. I think he’s a better attacking than defensive player. Stambouli, who’s been decent, should start again, and there may be a case for Capoue. Chadli’s ability to pop up with goals and assists is invaluable, but his lack of other work is a concern. Rose got a lot of criticism, some of it deserved, but our biggest problem on the left was Chadli not tracking back. It’s more of a concern because he’s actually reasonably good defensively when he decides to be. Lamela, on the other side, was better.

    Two skillful attacking teams that are vulnerable at the back ought to produce a goalfest, so a scoreless draw is likely. Most fans are skeptical Spurs are serious top four contenders. This game should make the issue a little clearer.
     
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    So 0-0 it is then
     
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    The drummer from Culture Club? That is a bit odd, isn't it?
    Still, he's probably better than that arsehole that we had for the City game. What was his name, again...?
     
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    What' giving me a bit of hope is that Villa drew with them, if their away form is so vulnerable that Villa can draw then we can win.
     
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    Crazy as it may sound, my team would be:

    Lloris
    Walker, Fazio, Vertonghen, Davies
    Lennon, Capoue, Dembele, Townsend
    Eriksen
    Adebayor

    Have to attack down the wings to force back their non defending midfielders.
    I also think Kane might need the rest and Ade's experience might work if he is up for it.
     
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    PNP Think Fazio will be a bit wary of this ref too!
    Was one of many curious events of the City match, the penalty and send off.
     
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    That’s interesting thinking, Blue. I’ve been worried about the game partly because United spreads the field so well and we’re too narrow so often.

    I’ve got to agree with Luke that you don’t know which Spurs team will turn up. If it’s the one that played Newcastle and the first half against Burnley, Man U could be in for a long day. If it’s the one that played the second half against Leicester we’ll lose by at least two.
     
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    Team is:

    Lloris, Chiriches, Fazio, Vertonghen, Davies; Mason, Stambouli; Chadli, Eriksen, Townsend; Kane

    On the bench is:

    Vorm, Dier, Walker, Lamela, Dembele, Paulinho, Soldado
     
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