Match Day Thread Tottenham Hotspur v Newcastle United

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  1. humanbeingincroydon

    humanbeingincroydon Well-Known Member

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    And now the MouAnon conspiracy theorists are blaming Ledders for our defensive lapses

    Defensive lapses which are exacerbated by us sitting back for excruciatingly long periods of matches and giving up control of midfield, which the last time I checked wasn't Ledders' doing

    It also has to be said that constantly chopping and changing our back line isn't helping. Think of any manager we've had for the past twenty years and you can say who their preferred CB partnership was without a second's thought. Now try that with what's happening currently, and it won't be long before the word "Errm..." slips into the conversation
     
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  2. The RDBD

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    The special one. The manager who will bring the :

    1. tactical nous to overcome his rivals

    2. mixture of cuddling and cajoling needed to lift a decent
    squad to higher levels of performance than was achieved by
    his predecessors

    3. killer on-pitch mentality that has long thwarted Spurs teams


    Apart from the odd instance of #1, I have seen SFA on the others.
    The "season compass" currently has it : Spurs are doing no better in
    the PL than they were 12 months ago.
     
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  3. humanbeingincroydon

    humanbeingincroydon Well-Known Member

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    A couple of years ago this weakened lineup with a godforsaken pivot that couldn't pass forwards if there was money involved beat Dortmund 3-0
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  4. PowerSpurs

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    Everyone else on here calls for players to be out of the club. Winks and Sissoko get continually slated despite making few errors. I don't see how a few remarks about Hojbjerg is a vendetta.
     
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  5. Billy The Yid

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    Sanchez is a repeat offender though, time and again he fluffs his lines, he can`t head the ball, can`t pass the ball, can`t tackle, can`t read the game and has a weak mentality, his only quality attribute is having some pace. Tanganga you can excuse, he is a young player that has been hampered by injuries and as yet has no set position at the back, Hojberg has been a decent signing, but I don`t get the mass fanfare some like to give him, he is far from top class, maybe people like to over rate him because he was relatively cheap, if he had cost £40m the same people would probably be rather underwhelmed. We regularly take the lead in games and then proceed to throw away the points, which comes down to weak mentality and incompetent players.
     
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    Or players who do not have a clear direction from management.
     
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  7. PowerSpurs

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    Sanchez is quite young too though. He has a lot of good qualities but staying calm isn't currently one of them. I actually think he reads the game quite well....he is often in the right position for blocks and interceptions. He should be coachable into something a lot better. Our back four were too inexperienced yesterday. Need one of Alderweireld or Dier in there I think.
     
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  8. humanbeingincroydon

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    The point is that he could stay calm if we controlled games in midfield, either by having a rock solid pivot that could sit on games if needs be or if we pressed high up the pitch

    Instead what we're doing is inviting opponents to attack our defence, even though our entire defence was built for a team that has the initiative, and what happens? A player who is used to maybe three or four one-on-ones per game is facing at least a dozen of them per game, and to the surprise of one bloke in the dugout and nobody else the increase in workload is causing an increase in errors
     
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  9. Spurf

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    It's the same as the difference between freedom fighter and terrorist. So as is often the case an accusation tells you more about the accuser than the accused.
     
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  10. "Thanks for that Brian"

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    <yikes> Yeeeesh!

    Fortunately, he's at the head of the 'unplayables'.....with Toby Alderweireld having just joined him.

    By the time we play City, we'll be lucky if Mourinho's still got 11 players who he's talking to.
     
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  11. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard it's SPURS

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    I agree that Hojbjerg wasn't very good yesterday, alongside a bunch of others (only Kane and Rodon left with any dignity) but I'm not really sure how you can equate the first Newcastle goal as more Hojbjerg's fault than anyone else's to be honest. Both Tanganga and Sanchez failing to clear the ball is what caused their goal, Hojbjerg's poor tackle can of course be criticised but he wouldn't have been required to have made that had both defenders done their job properly. If it's a percentage thing, then it's 40% Tanganga, 40% Sanchez and 20% Hojbjerg.

    As for the second, Willock ran through the middle of both Lamela and Lo Celso before slotting it in - two players who often get praised for their defensive graft. You even see right before Willock makes contact, Lo Celso makes a fake dart to close Willock down once he's realised Willock's about to score.

    That then leads into one of the issues I have with Jose. He's so intent on playing players who prefer to defend first and foremost that he's completely nullifying the best qualities in this squad and that's attacking class. We threw Lucas on the left despite him being very good through the middle of late, we play Lo Celso on the right despite the fact he's primarily a central player and so then it's no wonder we barely tested Newcastle for most of the game, whilst they - as Brian pointed out on 'the way forward' thread - ended up having the most attempts inside the opposition area in four years. We're not playing to our strengths and then wondering why so many are looking ****.
     
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  12. BobbyD

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    Well you gave 50% (more than sanchez and tangaga) blame to hojbjerg who at best was unlucky (his tackle onto the ba ricocheted off the striker) or at worst was weak compared to tangaga who actually with plenty of time passed the ball into a Newcastle player or sanchez who also with plenty of time softly cleared the ball at leg height straight into a newcastle player <laugh>

    Both absolutely criminal and the cause of the goal
     
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  13. BobbyD

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    He is one year younger than hojbjerg
     
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    Harry Kane trying to score more goals than our defence screws up. At this theatre next match.Please use the swear box if you curse more tham 50 times.Thank you.
     
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  15. humanbeingincroydon

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    So you're saying that Ossie Ardiles is in with a shout to be our caretaker?
     
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  16. C. Kane

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    Diop, Godfrey, Soyuncu and Dias are all younger or the same age as him and look like much better prospects.
     
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