Transfer Rumours transfer thread fact and fiction

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  1. remembercolinlee

    remembercolinlee Well-Known Member

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    Liverpool transfers
    2017/18
    Out £179m
    In £154m

    2018-19
    Out £33m
    In £170m

    2019-20
    Out £46m
    In £8

    Total
    Out £258m
    In £332m

    Net Spend is £74m

    However Liverpool recieved £145m for one player (courtinio).

    I picked 2017 as that was their turning point after they lost 4-1 at Wembley.
     
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  2. PleaseNotPoll

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    Their wage bill is about £130m higher than ours, though. It's closer to double than it is to parity.
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    Transfer spending isn't a good predictor of league finishes, nor of actual spending.
    Fulham can afford to splash out £100m in one transfer window. They can't afford to spend £300m a season on wages.
     
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  3. KingHotspur

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    Yeah but that just shows how little Spurs spent (39%) rather than Liverpool spending too much (59%)
     
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  4. humanbeingincroydon

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    Yeah, we should be more like Everton where almost all of our revenue immediately goes out the door on wages! Nothing could ever go wrong if that's what we do!
     
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  5. KingHotspur

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    I never said spend 85% did I
     
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  6. humanbeingincroydon

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    You never said what we should be spending either
     
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  7. PleaseNotPoll

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    Stadium spending and the uncertainty about what was going to happen.
    I wasn't saying that it was right, but it demonstrates Mourinho's point about spending.
    We're heavily outspent by the teams around us and the coronavirus has probably put off any chances of that being addressed.
     
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  8. remembercolinlee

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    A lot of clubs like West Ham, Everton, Leicester, Palace, Brighton and Fulham could well end up having financial issues cos they are all between 71 and 85% of their income going on wages...as they have all lost matchday income of not just tickets but food, drink, programmes and merchandise they could be in deep **** very soon.

    Probably not Everton or Leicester cos their owners zre very well off but I'd be concerned if I supported any of the others tbh.
     
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  9. Blue and White

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    Or championship team Bournemouth.
    Why they sold Wilson, Ake, Ramsdale and Arter. Their spine. Chances of coming back up?
     
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  10. humanbeingincroydon

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    It does have to be said that we were paying some bloody idiotic wages in the Honest and Humble Saint Harris of Redknapp/LAdPCeV-B eras, for example

    Roberto Soldado - £105k p/w
    Emmanuel Adebayor - £100k p/w
    Lewis Holtby - £60k p/w
    Paulinho - £55k p/w
    Louis Saha - £55k p/w
    Steven Pienaar - £50k p/w
    Brad Friedel - £50k p/w

    In comparison, here's the high earners of that period who deserved their wages
    Gareth Bale - £90k p/w
    Luka Modric - £86k p/w
    Hugo Lloris - £80k p/w
    Erik Lamela - £66k p/w
    Scott Parker - £65k p/w
    Mousa Dembele - £50k

    Considering the constant churn of players between 2010-12 and attempt to balance the wages (which is where Bassong and Corluka come into it, as they were on £45k and £36k respectively, hence they were loaned as nobody was willing to meet the wages we were paying them) under the former, and Baldini somehow thinking he was DoF for Chelsea based on the fees and wages he was signing off on under the latter, it's no surprise that we wanted to balance them out because we kept employing people who were a little too happy to spend someone else's money

    That's where Poch's philosophy worked for us: work with the big earners and keep the ones who had value (Lloris, Lamela) and ditch the ones who didn't (Adebayor, Soldado, Holtby Paulinho) and put together a team whose initial wage bill would be pretty low but a season or two later those wages would increase with their form - and also where it ultimately fell apart, as what we needed to do was repeat the initial process with the wage floor raised, but instead players who either needed to be sold (Rose, Wanyama) or were angling for transfers that never came (Alderweireld, Eriksen) stayed on when in the period between 2014-16 they'd have been shipped out, so we couldn't repeat the process with a higher wage floor
     
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  11. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard it's SPURS

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    Winks apparently considering his future.

    Grealish and Kane saying they both enjoyed playing alongside each other.

    Footballing gods... You really love teasing me, don’t you?!
     
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  12. Billy The Yid

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    Failing to cough up enough money to get Grealish over the line before Villa were rescued, has to go down as one of Levy`s biggest fack ups when you consider the level Grealish is at now.
     
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    Considering what Dan Kilpatrick has said about Poch being stubborn about signing players he didn't want, highlighting that it was Poch who turned down moves for Tielemans and Asensio, what really needs to be asked is whether we could have signed Grealish for our original bid if Poch greenlit the move rather than needing to be cajoled into it
     
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  14. PowerSpurs

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    The timing doesn't support that. In any takeover there is always a prior agreement that no assets will be sold. The rescue was already being discussed before the transfer window opened. So no bid could have been successful.
     
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  15. Dier Hard

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    Yeah I’ve often blamed him for it but I do think what HBIC says also played a part, it’s now become pretty common knowledge Poch turned down the opportunity to sign quite a few players and I think Grealish may have been one he needed persuading on which ultimately led to our initial rejected bids and eventual failure to sign him.

    Gonna haunt me for years that one, lol.
     
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  16. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard it's SPURS

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    It flashed up the other day and just popped up again on my Twitter feed but apparently Sabitzer may be available for €30m due to having just over 18 months left on his deal.

    Erm... Yes. ****ing. Please! With Ndombele and Lo Celso’s fitness and injury issues still persisting and the fact Dele is probably as good as gone, what a player he’d be to bring into this team. Another leader as well which is always something Jose looks for.
     
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    Steve Bruce even came out and said he expected Grealish to leave, it was all over the media and it is common knowledge we made a bid, and I doubt Levy is stupid enough to bid on a player if there is no point in doing so. Levy saw an opportunity to take advantage of a club in a dire financial situation and pick up Grealish well below his market value, had he made a fair bid there is a good chance Grealish would now be a Spurs player, unfortunately (for Spurs) Levy dragged his heels and the rest is history.
     
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  18. PowerSpurs

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    Steve Bruce, the well known expert in company law. If Grealish had really been available for well below his market value, why were we the only bidder? The only logical explanation for what happened is that we and others made a bid and Villa told us and everyone else he wasn't for sale.
     
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  19. Dier Hard

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    I approve of this tweet
     
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    can see it happening with the Jose connection

    His experience in defending titles will be so important to us
     
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