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  1. Plymborn

    Plymborn Well-Known Member
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    So the New York Hotel developer is the next President of USA.

    Talking about Hotel Developers....do we expect James Brent to gain momentum from this and lift us to the Premiership and European Cup success....anything is possible if you believe hard enough.
     
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    He may now stand for PM
     
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    He would only stand for PM if somebody else paid for his campaign Joe. There must be something about people in the Hotel business. Trump won't keep any of his promises either. He said he would rebuild his nation and Brent said he would build a grandstand. No sign of one yet so lets see how the other one's promise gets on.
     
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    Maybe Trump will build the grandstand....that would be a piddling little job for him.....sounds a good idea.

    Memo......Dear Mr President Elect....seeing that it will soon be 400 years since the pilgrim fathers left Plymouth to help establish your fine country ,we where wondering if you would like to celebrate it with a 50,000 Stadium here in Central Park.....which we of course would name after you.........
     
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    Brent has re built argyle tho?? we have a team now who will challenge, he must get some credit for this also the manager?
    As for the building, who know's when or if it will happen and what we will get.. it's a long time overdue. we will need the bigger stand if we are to start to rise up the league..
     
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    Far be it from me to not give credit where credits due Joe. Therefore well done Mr Adams. Oh and well done the supporters who have paid for it with superb support despite a few years of absolute crap in return. There you go Joe, sorted.<whistle>
     
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    and dont forget that Trump probably doesn't realise or recognise that there is history beyond about a hundred years ago, so the 400 year anniversary of the sailing of the founding fathers is probably too complex a concept for him to understand. Wouldn't mind a few quid on Michelle Obama being president in (say) 8 years or so.
     
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    I do remember George Bush (junior) make the horrific error of stating that it is a Crusade that we where on in Iraq......a 1000 years of history forgotten in a jot.
     
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    I miss Bush's mis-speaks. Here's one to cherish.

    Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we.
     
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    It is said that George Bush junior had never been outside of the USA until he became President....is that true ?
     
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    I see there have been demonstrations against this result in the USA. Must be sore loser syndrome. Seems like sore loser syndrome is becoming epidemic.
     
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    Why are they moaning? they choose him now they have to get on with it..
     
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    The difference is that in America the majority actually didn't vote for him. Clinton got more individual votes but the way their system works she lost. They never were very good at much were they. I watched Trump on the news programmes today meeting Obahma and his attempts at being statesman like. I will bet it's only a matter of time before he goes off on one because people like him can't resist it in the end. Perhaps it will end in the American way. Somebody somewhere will shoot him and then blame it on the Mexicans or Muslims.
     
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    More individual votes has happened in our own elections for the losing party over the years.

    This is why first past the post results can be seen as unfair at times.

    The Lib/Dems have always griped about it.....and of course UKIP's 4 million votes in the last election gave them only one parliamentary seat, plus some fiddling in Thanet to make sure Farage didn't win by the Conservatives by over spending blatantly beyond the allotted budget.
     
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    Our system is different though Plym where we don't vote for a Prime Minister we vote for individual MPs in our town or city. You add all the votes up in that area and one has a majority. If you add all of the votes individually for all of the country then no doubt a number of parties have had power when not in receipt of the majority of the national vote. The American vote though is for one person against another so it is not each town or city seperately. I don't understand their way of the person getting most votes in one place getting all of the nominations that area is allowed. Why not just add up all the votes? Seems daft.

    I get a bit sick and tired of people saying our current PM is not an elected leader. No PM has ever been elected as a PM by the people no matter what party has won the majority. MPs and party members elect the PM every time. Gordon Brown wasn't elected leader either as an example.
     
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    Our government usually has more votes than any other SINGLE party and as Sensible says, ours isn't a 2 horse race.

    The issue of spending is important. Trump has complained about the election being fixed - well the biggest fix and corrupting influence is that between them, the 2 candidates seem to have spent around $600 million on the campaign. That puts trivia like how you apportion the cost of a national battlebus coach into perspective!
     
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    General Election 2015....Conservative Party.....36.9 % of the vote..... from a turn out of 66.4 %.
     
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    The percentage of people who actually bother to vote is not the fault of anyone but those that can't be bothered. You cannot move the goalpost by claiming a minority Government because they only got 36% of the national number. They got over 50% of those that bothered. Ergo a majority. I would suggest that every Government election has seen less than 50% of the Country vote for the winners. I think proportional representation is a fairer system because too many votes are wasted in vain but it's not the system we have/
     
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